Day 273 - 03 Jul 96 - Page 36

     
     1        London fact sheet and A5 fliers".  Can you remember how
     2        this happens?
     3        A.   It would have been some occasions when someone from
     4        the London Greenpeace office might 'phone us up and simply
     5        ask us to send down 50 or 100 copies at a time.  There
     6        would have been other occasions when we were in London
     7        ourselves on various events including, obviously, the
     8        various fayres that London Greenpeace has arranged over the
     9        years and on those occasions would have brought leaflets
    10        with us to display on our own stand and any that were left
    11        over at the end of the day we would likely to have left
    12        behind for London Greenpeace to use.
    13
    14             There were some occasions where our members may have
    15        been in London on other personal matters and may have gone
    16        along to demonstrations being held in London and would have
    17        taken a handful of leaflets themselves to use on those
    18        occasions.  So, by various means at various times small
    19        quantities because again we never printed very large
    20        quantities of them because they were still relatively
         expensive.
    22
    23   Q.   You are talking about the fact sheet?
    24        A.  Yes.  So, over the years probably a few thousand may
    25        have been sent down in that way through various routes.
    26
    27   MR. RAMPTON:   My Lord, I am troubled by this.  There seems to
    28        have been an expanding case.  It is already a new case, but
    29        it seems to be expanding.  We have never had a witness
    30        statement to that effect from Mr. Smith or from the
    31        defendants, or any of their publication witnesses.  I am a
    32        little troubled by it.  It was put elliptically to Mr.
    33        Nicholson when he was shown the wrong kind of Veggies
    34        leaflet, because it was one which was more modern than was
    35        in existence in 1989 but that is as far as it went, and I
    36        am a little troubled by this.
    37
    38   MR. MORRIS:  Well, it is in the statement of 20th May 1996,
    39        which I have read out, and asked him how it was supplied to
    40        Greenpeace London and that witness explained how that
         process took place.
    42
    43   MR. RAMPTON:  No, my Lord.  It is a different point entirely.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, I thought it was implicit in what was
    46        put to Mr. Nicholson that insofar as anyone said they had
    47        seen a fact sheet with the familiar cartoon and subtitle on
    48        the front of it, that that might have been a Veggies
    49        version rather than the actual fact sheet--
    50
    51   MR. RAMPTON:   No, this is what was put to Mr. Nicholson.
    52
    53   MR. MORRIS:  It was the front cover that was important.
    54
    55   MR. RAMPTON:  No, and when I re-examined Mr Nicholson I showed
    56        him this and I said: "Have you ever seen anything like that
    57        before?"   He said: "No, I have not."   And he did not see
    58        it at the 1989 demonstration, and it is not surprising.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All the Veggies fact sheets had on them