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1 going to get anywhere via this article.
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3 MS. STEEL: I do not know, I think it is the overall picture and
4 clearly follows lots of examples of where they have done
5 it.
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7 MR. JUSTICE BELL: One has got to sort of draw one's boundaries
8 a bit otherwise it gets quite out of hand.
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10 MS. STEEL: I will try and deal with it a bit quicker.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I do not think you will harm your case
13 if you do as long as you -- not necessarily in relation to
14 every document, but in relation to one or two of the main
15 ones which you have already done, for instance, with regard
16 to Veggies -- make it clear what the main point is so that
17 I understand it and put it to Mr. Nicholson which you have
18 done. Then you can pick it up in argument, or you can give
19 evidence in due course, if you wish, about the effect this
20 had on you and so on, if it did.
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22 MS. STEEL: But it is also the point because Mr. Rampton said he
23 was going to use the files to rely on it being all down to
24 us sort of thing.
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26 MR. JUSTICE BELL: A lot of that is argument. You do not have
27 to put everything. I suppose there are two points, whether
28 any of it can be seen to have been lifted from the
29 London Greenpeace leaflet, I am probably able to judge that
30 for myself. The other question is whether the
31 London Greenpeace leaflet was one manifestation of a series
32 of communications which might have been going on between
33 people which also manifested itself in other areas, and Mr.
34 Nicholson has quite candidly said, "I do not know about
35 that". So, so far as he is concerned, I would suggest, so
36 far as that consideration, as opposed to the direct lift
37 consideration is concerned, you cannot take it any further
38 with him.
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40 MS. STEEL: Right. The one in tab 14 from The Today newspaper
41 on Monday, 7th August 1989 and it says, "action taken
42 September 1989". I am not sure why it has that.
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44 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes, it is 7th August 1989.
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46 MS. STEEL: Yes. The paragraph that is marked is underneath
47 the photograph?
48 A. Yes?
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50 Q. You do not have any evidence that Liz Crosby made that
51 statement as a result of information from
52 London Greenpeace?
53 A. I have no idea.
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55 Q. Do you remember this one related in an apology in The Today
56 newspaper, I think. I think there was an apology in open
57 court actually. I think it is one of the ----
58 A. I can remember an action against The Today newspaper.
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60 Q. Right.
