Day 250 - 15 May 96 - Page 43

     
     1   Q.   You can see all kinds of, like...  I do not know, big
     2        McDonald's signs and advertising things, or something,
     3        through the window?
     4        A.  No, that is Hamburger University.
     5
     6   Q.   Right.  So have I got the wrong ----
     7        A.  That is the right place, yes, that is Hamburger
     8        University.
     9
    10   Q.   That entrance there was where you were handed a copy?
    11        A.  Yes.
    12
    13   Q.   Of the leaflet?
    14        A.  Yes.
    15
    16   Q.   Right.  That was by a man?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   What did you do with that copy of the leaflet?
    20        A.  Right.  I went back in my office, got my briefcase, put
         the leaflet in the briefcase, went and got my car, came
    22        out.  The next day, I believe it was the next day,
    23        Mrs. Brinley-Codd came to the office and I handed her the
    24        leaflet.  To my memory she put the leaflet in a plastic
    25        folder.
    26
    27   Q.   Did you used to hand her the other leaflets that were
    28        collected on demonstrations as well, or was it like a
    29        one-off incident?
    30        A.  I am not sure whether I handed Mrs. Brinley-Codd the
    31        one in '87, that may have gone to Ian Jenkins or Gary
    32        Freer.  They were, at that time, handling ----
    33
    34   Q.   But, presumably, you were handing them to Barlow Lyde &
    35        Gilbert; it was standard practice for you to hand them?
    36        A.  Yes, and tell them what I had seen and what I thought
    37        had gone on.
    38
    39   Q.   It was standard practice for you to hand over any leaflets
    40        that had been obtained on protests outside the Head Office?
         A.  Yes.
    42
    43   Q.   Did you ever make a note on the leaflet, this leaflet that
    44        you handed on this day, saying what time you had picked it
    45        up?
    46        A.  No.  Do not forget, I was not getting evidence.  At
    47        least, I did not think I was getting evidence to bring to
    48        court.  I was just observing.
    49
    50   Q.   Did you give her all the leaflets that were picked up on 
    51        that day? 
    52        A.  I did not have them, Terry Carroll did, they eventually 
    53        went to Barlow Lyde & Gilbert but I am not sure when.
    54
    55   Q.   Was it just one?
    56        A.  I handed the one leaflet I had been handed.
    57
    58   Q.   But other people...  Well, we know from Mr. Carroll, gave
    59        him other leaflets?
    60        A.  Yes, that was Mr. Gareth Jones.