Day 250 - 15 May 96 - Page 27

     
     1   Q.   Did you see 3 or 4 different names?
     2        A.  I cannot remember, I really cannot remember, this is
     3        years ago now.
     4
     5   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What percentage of your time was the
     6        London Greenpeace investigation taking in late '89 and
     7        through 1990?
     8        A.  Five per cent.
     9
    10   Q.   Yes.  The trouble is, in litigation everyone in court seems
    11        to think that is the only thing that is going on in the
    12        world?
    13        A.  I concentrated on that completely, I would say.
    14
    15   Q.   About one 20th of your time?
    16        A.  I would say, my Lord, I had 3 departments I was
    17        running, no more than ten per cent would be security, and
    18        of that that includes London Greenpeace, 35 per cent
    19        perhaps was personnel and the rest was franchising.
    20
    MS. STEEL:   So London Greenpeace you just thought was a very
    22        minor problem in your security?
    23
    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, that is a complete non-sequitur, you can
    25        spend one per cent of your time saving your own life.  It
    26        does not mean it is unimportant?
    27        A.  No.
    28
    29   MS. STEEL:   It is?
    30        A.  It was very important, but from the point of view that
    31        I was running an observation on the organisation, but
    32        equally important was getting franchisees into the
    33        programme.  That is what McDonald's thought, what I spent
    34        most of my time on, expanding the business.
    35
    36   Q.   All these private investigators that you were aware of, and
    37        I think we have got to at least 6, very probably more -- it
    38        must be more than that because we were aware of five from
    39        Kings alone -- they were all, to your knowledge, employed
    40        between October 1989 and January 1991?
         A.  Yes.
    42
    43   Q.   Did it not actually concern you that you might be dwarfing
    44        the numbers of people that were involved in
    45        London Greenpeace and influencing the activities of the
    46        group?
    47        A.  No.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What was the maximum it occurred to you that
    50        you knew of, altogether, from both sources?  In the light 
    51        of that last question I would like you to give me your 
    52        evidence, and Ms. Steel can challenge it further, but what 
    53        picture did you have of how many people were on the ground
    54        involved in the inquiry altogether?
    55        A.  Four from Kings, and two, perhaps 3.
    56
    57   Q.   I have not got a clear picture of it -- and how many from?
    58        A.  Two, perhaps three, from Bishops, but I realised that
    59        may not have been all they used, there may have been
    60        agencies they used just as corroboration just for their