Day 249 - 14 May 96 - Page 21


     
     1   Q.   "I then went down to the basement, picked up my car and
     2        drove out of the building shortly after 6 p.m.  From my car
     3        I could see the protesters, including Helen Steel who was
     4        still holding some of the leaflets complained of."
     5        A.  Yes.
     6
     7   Q.   Do you remember now where, roughly speaking, Helen Steel
     8        was when you saw her still holding the leaflets complained
     9        of?
    10        A.  About 3 foot from my car.
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Which paragraph is that?
    13
    14   MR. RAMPTON:  26 my Lord.  About 3 feet from your car?
    15        A.  Yes I had come up to the end of the exit path for our
    16        vehicles and she was standing on the footpath no more than
    17        about 3 foot from my car.
    18
    19   Q.   Can you look at photograph 25.
    20        A.  Yes.
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    22   Q.   There is the pavement and then a kerb, and then some brick,
    23        like, paving?
    24        A.  She was standing towards the end of that kerb and
    25        I left.
    26
    27   Q.   Is that the exit from the car park?
    28        A.  That is the car park exit, yes.
    29
    30   Q.   You go in your car, cross that brick paving?
    31        A.  Yes, and turn right.  I turn right.
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    33   Q.   No, but on this picture you would be moving from left to
    34        right?
    35        A.  From left to right, that is right.
    36
    37   Q.   And there is a man there in ochre trousers; do you see
    38        him?  Yellow trousers?
    39        A.  Yes, I think that is the back end of the cow.
    40
    41   Q.   The rear end of the pantomime cow.  In relation to him,
    42        when you saw Helen Steel as you left where was she?
    43        A.  Further over towards the kerb, closer to where the
    44        person with the white jacket is.
    45
    46   Q.   I see.
    47        A.  There was a number of demonstrators standing there.
    48
    49   Q.   Are you certain that, even as you left, she was still
    50        holding the leaflet complained of? 
    51        A.  She was holding the leaflet in her hand, yes. 
    52 
    53   Q.   How many leaflets, one or more?
    54        A.  Not a lot.
    55
    56   Q.   Yes.  Thank you, Mr. Nicholson.
    57
    58                    Cross-examined by the Defendants
    59
    60   MS. STEEL:   The statement that we have in volume yellow 2, tab

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