Day 242 - 29 Apr 96 - Page 19


     
     1        A.  To the best of my understanding, yes, although I would
     2        be happier if I knew the provenance of the map.
     3
     4   Q.   What do you mean "the provenance"?
     5
     6   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where they came from.
     7
     8   MR. MORRIS:  Right.  These maps are -----
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Not just where they came from in someone's
    11        briefcase but who created them in the first place.
    12
    13   MR. MORRIS:  We are talking about the map in the Tosi document.
    14        It does not say -- I did check -- anywhere in that document
    15        exactly where?
    16        A.  That is the USA ID contract.
    17
    18   Q.   No, this is the -- yes, it is.
    19        A.  And that map comes from the USA ID document?
    20
    21   Q.   Yes.
    22        A.  Then it is relied on.
    23
    24   Q.   Right.  OK.  If we look -- sorry, this is another document
    25        but it is probably the final map we will look at -- I
    26        believe it is in the map behind Cesca; Mr. Rampton might
    27        remember.
    28
    29   MR. RAMPTON:  That was disclosed by the Defendants.
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  Behind Mr. Carrier's.
    32
    33   MR. RAMPTON:  That is where I put it and I believe that is where
    34        your Lordship has it too.
    35
    36   MR. MORRIS:  This was the one -- because it also has the 1983.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What we call the Cedla (sic).
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  "After Sader and Joyce", I think it is, tropical
    41        rainforest.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is it?
    44
    45   MR. MORRIS:  It is the one that has actually got up to 1983 on
    46        it.
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What was it called?
    49
    50   MR. RAMPTON:  It is after Sader and Joyce, my Lord. 
    51 
    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  After? 
    53
    54   MR. RAMPTON:  It is subtitled "After Sader and Joyce" and it
    55        has, I think, five diagramatic maps of Costa Rica in an
    56        historical -----
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  I can hand it up.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Where do I get "After Sader and Joyce".

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