Day 242 - 29 Apr 96 - Page 11
1 MR. JUSTICE BELL: That is right. That is the first page.
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3 MR. MORRIS: That is the first document. If we turn over, we
4 will come to that point in a minute.
5 (To the witness): The next page, yes?
6 A. Yes.
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8 Q. Shows some statements. I am going to point in a minute to
9 where they emanate from. They seem to come from the
10 documents which I served this morning, but this was the
11 advice Mr. Cesca received about Costa Rica.
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13 The first point, to see if you would agree with these
14 statements: "Deforestation in 1978, 60,000 to 70,000
15 hectares per year". Do you agree with that?
16 A. Roughly.
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18 Q. Yes. That was more than one per cent of the country or
19 four per cent of the forest remaining in 1977; is that
20 correct?
21 A. That was the highest rate of deforestation ----
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23 Q. Right.
24 A. -- over several decades.
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26 Q. "By 1977, the country's natural forest had been reduced to
27 31 per cent of the land, approximately"?
28 A. Probably a bit lower than that.
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30 Q. Right and, "More than 50 per cent of the deforestation had
31 been done since 1950"?
32 A. At least.
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34 Q. Yes. In point (G), if we just look at where that direct
35 quote comes from, it comes from the document -- in fact,
36 I think, believe it or not, I forgot to photocopy that
37 page, sorry about this. The statement in (G) about the
38 complex of causes -- can I show Mr. Rampton because
39 I forgot to photocopy this page. It is directly taken from
40 this document which I served this morning, but I forgot to
41 photocopy this page, but it included an extra point after
42 "economic incentives", after that quote, and it says, "...
43 and strong foreign influence over the national economy".
44 Do you have any comment about "strong foreign influence
45 over the national economy"?
46 A. Well, there are many.
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48 Q. With regard to deforestation?
49 A. It depends how long you want me to go on.
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51 Q. Brief, just briefly?
52 A. But in relation applying it to the matters which
53 concern us here, the original promotion of cattle expansion
54 in Costa Rica on a large scale took place in the late
55 1950s/early 1960s under pressure mainly from international
56 organisations and, particularly, the World Bank, the
57 Inter-American Regional Bank and other institutions who
58 were looking for ways of promoting new sources of Costa
59 Rican exports, and in fact the World Bank made a whole
60 series of loans to develop the infra structure abattoirs