Day 203 - 12 Jan 96 - Page 13


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  I have ruled against you on that.  It
     3        does not matter whether it is practical to deal with it.
     4        It has to have a part in the case; it has to have a
     5        relevant part, and it has to be brought in according to our
     6        proper procedures.
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     8        Please cross-examine Mr. Skehel.  He is a potentially
     9        important witness so far as Colchester matters are
    10        concerned.  It is important that you challenge him, and
    11        I have invited you to challenge him as to the substance of
    12        his evidence and test the substance of his evidence on
    13        matters which matter.
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    15        If I can help you, it seems to me that Mr. Skehel is an
    16        important witness, because one inference from his evidence
    17        (if I were to accept it at the end of the day) might be
    18        that Mr. Coton was just a really bad Manager, not through
    19        intent but through inherent lack of ability; that this was
    20        overlooked to some extent by Mark Davis who had brought
    21        Ray Coton up, as it were, but it was not overlooked by
    22        Mr. Skehel, who came in as a cold blast of wind in
    23        February 1991.
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    25        You, on the other hand, say:  No, Ray Coton only acted as
    26        he did because of pressures of the McDonald's system and
    27        because he had been taught to act that way by Mark Davis,
    28        who criticised him but certainly thought he was fit to
    29        carry on as Manager.  That is the real issue I have to get
    30        to grips with:  at the end of the day, which avenue is my
    31        every day judgment is going to take me down?  That is what
    32        I need your help on with cross-examination; not sewage
    33        coming through the ceiling.
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    35   MR. MORRIS:  The credibility of the witness goes to the motive
    36        for making his comments that he is making.  So it is
    37        important to attack the credibility of the witness who
    38        I believe -----
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    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It may be, but attack it in relation to what
    41        happened in 1991 in Colchester.  You must observe my
    42        ruling.  No more hygiene or health and safety incidents,
    43        please.  I do not accept that they are being put as
    44        cross-examination as to credibility of the witness.  You
    45        must observe that.
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    47   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness): One general question before
    48        I move on, then, Mr. Skehel.  Would it be bad management by
    49        a Supervisor or a Store Manager or Manager in charge of a
    50        store to leave a store open when there was sewage falling 
    51        into the kitchen area? 
    52        A.  Falling into the kitchen area? 
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    54   Q.   Or dripping into the kitchen area.  Would that be a case of
    55        bad management, in your view?
    56        A.  If there was clearly sewage dripping into the kitchen
    57        area, then I would suggest that the store would need to be
    58        considered to be closed at some stage.  But it would depend
    59        on the exact -- what do you mean?  You will have to
    60        describe it in exact detail to me, because you would look

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