Day 194 - 01 Dec 95 - Page 16


     
     1        challenged that that is not so, that there was a little red
     2        man showing and a green light showing to traffic.  He must
     3        put that to the witness who is called first to make it
     4        clear what the issue is.  When the plaintiff's case is
     5        finished and the defendant's case starts, and the driver of
     6        the vehicle is called, the barrister for the plaintiff does
     7        not have to start saying: "I suggest to you that there was
     8        a red man showing and a green light to the on-coming
     9        driver."  It is clear that that is the dispute.  All he
    10        needs to do, if he wishes to do so, is test the basis of
    11        it:  "Is it true that you are blind and were carrying a
    12        white stick, so you could not see what colour the lights
    13        were?  Were you talking to your young son and not looking
    14        at the lights at all" -- that sort of thing.  But what you
    15        do not have to put is the obvious conflict between
    16        witnesses.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  We are confident in our case, anyway.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You have said this several times before, and
    21        perhaps wrongly.  I just assumed that you were talking to
    22        the world at large.  But in so far as you were addressing
    23        me, you must certainly not work on the basis that because
    24        Mr. Rampton has not challenged that in the evidence of your
    25        witnesses which is clearly in issue by the time I come to
    26        hear it, he is not disputing it.  That would be a false
    27        assumption to make on your part.  You know what is in
    28        dispute from the fact that, wherever it has occurred, a
    29        witness called by Mr. Rampton has said something which
    30        differs from what your witnesses said.
    31
    32        I can see where the differences are.  No doubt you will be
    33        give me help, and Mr. Rampton will do, as to where the
    34        differences are, in case I have missed them, in due
    35        course.
    36
    37   MR. MORRIS:  So, really, the burden of testing evidence is all
    38        on the defence ---
    39
    40   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.
    41
    42   MR. MORRIS:  -- to do it against the Plaintiffs' witnesses.
    43
    44   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No.  The burden of challenging, making it
    45        clear where there is a challenge and a dispute, lies mostly
    46        on the advocate for the party who comes second.
    47
    48   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    49
    50   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What the advocate for the party who has come 
    51        first does not have to do is laboriously spell out that 
    52        which is obvious to the judge anyway, that there is an 
    53        issue as to what colour the lights were showing.  In many
    54        cases, the judge, at the end of the day, does not
    55        necessarily have to find it was a green light or a red
    56        light or find that they both went over on amber.
    57
    58   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, he may also perfectly well find that both
    59        witnesses are perfectly honest and one is simply mistaken.
    60

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