Day 194 - 01 Dec 95 - Page 10

     
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     2   Q.   Coming back to the union matter, was your father an
     3        official in the Transport and General Workers Union?
     4        A.  No, he has never been a member of the Transport and
     5        General Workers Union and he has never been an official of
     6        any trade union.
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     8   Q.   Did you ever tell anybody in management or anyone at the
     9        store that your father was an official in the Transport and
    10        General Workers Union?
    11        A.  I did not, no.
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is hardly likely to affect my view of
    14        matters whether your father was involved with unions or
    15        not, but you say he has never been a member of the TGWU or
    16        an official of a trade union.  Is he, in fact, a member of
    17        another union?
    18        A.  He is -----
    19
    20   Q.   You need not say ---
         A.  OK.
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    23   Q.   -- what it is, because people join unions as a matter of
    24        course ---
    25        A.  That is right.
    26
    27   Q.   -- in this country.
    28        A.  My father has worked in local government for the last
    29        25 years.
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    31   Q.   He is a member of NALGO, is he, or something like that?
    32        A.  Previously; and it is now called UNISON, that union.
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    34   Q.   I am a bit out of date.
    35        A.  But he does not even attend the meetings.
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    37   Q.   But is it the successor to NALGO?
    38        A.  UNISON is, yes.
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    40   MR. MORRIS:  So could you explain the situation, then, that
         happened when you started to be interested in joining a
    42        union?
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I am a bit cautious about this, because
    45        what your Lordship gave leave for was for Mr. Morris to ask
    46        about the interest shown by others, and about
    47        Mr. Nicholson's visit.  Mr. Morris ------
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    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  All I need to know is Mr. Sutcliffe's
    50        evidence about how much interest was actually shown by crew 
    51        at East Ham, by his account, and what happened at this 
    52        meeting (supposing there was a meeting and Mr. Sutcliffe 
    53        attended it).
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    55   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness):  Can you explain -----
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    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  From a point the view, the overview of this
    58        case, it is part of what might be seen as a sequence of
    59        meetings at Hackney, East Ham and Liverpool.  I want to
    60        know what happened at the meeting at East Ham.