Day 194 - 01 Dec 95 - Page 04
1 was here. Nothing has happened.
2
3 On this rare occasion, I do take strong and formal
4 objection to anything that is not in the statement that is
5 more than just peripheral being led from this witness, for
6 that reason.
7
8 MR. JUSTICE BELL: What do you say, Mr. Morris?
9
10 MR. MORRIS: I do not really know what the Plaintiffs are afraid
11 of. They have had their witnesses -----
12
13 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is not what they are afraid of. I made
14 directions in a ruling a little while ago about giving at
15 least five clear working days' notice of any additional
16 evidence you wanted to give. I have been fairly gentle
17 about that ruling, because I appreciate the difficulties
18 you are in. But there can be no difficulty with
19 Mr. Sutcliffe, because he was here in court months ago, and
20 I specifically asked you to take the opportunity to take
21 instructions from him then. So, unless you can tell me
22 that there is a good reason why you now want to adduce
23 anything at all in addition to the statement, at the
24 moment, I do not see why you should.
25
26 MR. MORRIS: I was going to ask him to explain a couple of
27 things.
28
29 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Tell me about them and what they are.
30
31 MR. MORRIS: For example, on the first section, I was going to
32 ask him about being told to hurry up and the pressure to
33 carry more and more box loads, and how that was being done,
34 and who was doing that, kept telling him to do that, in
35 terms of positions -- which management, whatever.
36
37 The second section was about accidents. I was going to
38 refer to Mr. Sexton's evidence on that and ask
39 Mr. Sutcliffe to comment; why he wanted to join a union; he
40 talked about a number of practices at the store, and ask
41 him to explain that, and who was responsible for such
42 practices, whatever.
43
44 The union incident, obviously, Mr. Sexton has made a number
45 of comments about nobody being interested in a union as far
46 as he knew, and things like that. I was going to ask him
47 about the union incident -- well, the union matter -- and
48 how many were interested, what happened, and put to him
49 what Mr. Nicholson said about unions in terms of in-store
50 activity, and what happened, after "the junior manager
51 advised us that McDonald's did not like trade unions".
52
53 The mice incident, I think, is pretty clear. I was not
54 going to ask him any questions about that, except that
55 Mr. Sexton had denied throwing away individual
56 (inaudible).
57
58 I was going to ask him about his father being an official
59 in the Transport and General Workers Union, and the meeting
60 with Mr. Sid Nicholson -- which will not take two seconds,