Day 189 - 20 Nov 95 - Page 05

     
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     2        That is why you have called Mrs. Casey, for that latter
     3        matter; that is why you have called or propose to call
     4        Mr. Mrozek; and that is why, when they have been called,
     5        you will read the statement of Mr. McCann under the
     6        provisions of the Civil Evidence Act.
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     8   MR. MORRIS:  But also it is, if the Company is anti-union, why
     9        the Company would be anti-union in our case, in which case
    10        we have to know what the character of the grievances were.
    11        So that is what -----
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    13   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I have said I do not mind you asking about
    14        whether they said it was this reason; and then, certainly,
    15        ask Mrs. Casey and Mr. Mrozek what the true reason was, in
    16        so far as they can say what it was.  But what I do not want
    17        you to do -- because I do not think it will help me and it
    18        will not help your case -- is to go through the history of
    19        the matter just because Mr. Mehigan happened to do so.
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    MR. MORRIS:  I was not intending, if there is any concern, to go
    22        through the kind of detail I went through with Mr. Mehigan,
    23        partly -----
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Tell me what other matters, apart from -----
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  What the strike was about and, you know, say
    28        something about that; why they came out on strike; who
    29        exactly came out on strike from her store.  Obviously, I am
    30        asking her about things which she knows about, which would
    31        mean the Grafton Street store; about the people that have
    32        come from abroad, what she may know about that.  (Pause)
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    34   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Just sit down.
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    36   MR. MORRIS:  That is basically it; then, of course, her position
    37        during the strike, what happened at the end, and what
    38        happened to her; and then some conclusions that she may
    39        have -- if that is OK?
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    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  I cannot see any objection to that,
    42        Mr. Rampton.
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    44   MR. RAMPTON:  No, I cannot.  I am only worried about the last
    45        one, of course.
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    47   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Well, let us wait and see.
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    49   MR. RAMPTON:  We will have to see what it amounts to.
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    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  My reason for interrupting you is that 
    52        I thought, from the way you approached it, that we were 
    53        going to have a free ranging -- you ask about those
    54        matters, certainly.
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    56   MR. MORRIS:  I am not going to go through every document.
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    58   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, no.  What I suggest is, restrict yourself
    59        to the topics you have just mentioned; if something else
    60        occurs to you, air it with me first.