Day 172 - 12 Oct 95 - Page 36


     
     1        upon which I am working, because it is going to crop up
     2        again at some stage.  So I will explain what I understand
     3        the principle to be, and then I will go through each of the
     4        ones.
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Well, OK.
     7
     8   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So you have really said what you want to
     9        say.  Do say some more if you like about that middle of the
    10        sentence on page 2.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, OK.  The next one is on page 3: "However all
    13        the employees considered themselves very much underpaid."
    14        This is something that may have been told by individuals;
    15        it might have been the general opinion of all the staff
    16        amongst discussions amongst themselves; it may have been
    17        coming out of rap session that was a specific complaint.
    18        In fact, we have even heard from McDonald's own witnesses
    19        on the complaints about pay being standard at rap
    20        sessions.  So I submit that that should stay in.
    21
    22        Then at the bottom of that page: "The majority of employees
    23        worked well over the 39 hours a week specified in the
    24        Handbook.  The limit was a joke.  Most people did not
    25        object to working over 39 hours because they needed the
    26        money.  A few people at the store even did 24 hour shifts."
    27        On the 39 hours per week, that could have been clearly seen
    28        on the schedules and, presumably, he is talking about
    29        majority of full-time employees rather than all the
    30        employees.  "A few people at the store even did 24 hour
    31        shifts" -- this on page 4 at the top -- he refers to -----
    32
    33   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause a moment.
    34
    35   MR. MORRIS:  Sorry.  He refers to this on page -----
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL: Just pause.  I am making a note.  Where have
    38        you gone to now?
    39
    40   MR. MORRIS:  Page 1 of the supplementary statement, continuation
    41        statement.
    42
    43   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  At the moment, I am minded to think that at
    44        the bottom of page 3, "The majority of the employees worked
    45        well over the 39 hours per week specified in the Handbook",
    46        can stay in because, as you say, it may have come from
    47        seeing what was on schedules.  "The limit was a joke" is
    48        just a way of saying it was observed more in breach,
    49        etcetera.  I do not think the supplement, the first
    50        paragraph on the first page of the supplement, changes 
    51        that.  But why people did not object seems to me can only 
    52        be hearsay if one looks at page 1: "The reason I know that 
    53        other people did it was because it was common knowledge."
    54        I have difficulty with your common knowledge point, because
    55        that still takes you back to where it comes from -- and
    56        "that they told me".  So at the moment my inclination is
    57        to keep in from "the majority" to "a joke", have out from
    58        "most people" to "the money", and have in the last
    59        sentence.  All these, when I say have matters in, that is
    60        all subject to the question of what weight should be

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