Day 172 - 12 Oct 95 - Page 11

     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  (To the witness) Can I just ask you a question
     3        about the IPMS union.  You are deputy editor and -----
     4        A.  Press officer.
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     6   Q.   Do you know what the average wage of the people in the IPMS
     7        membership will be, approximately?
     8        A.  I would think somewhere between £25,000 and £35,000 a
     9        year.
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    11                  Cross-examined by MR. RAMPTON Q.C.
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    13   MR. RAMPTON:  Mr. Pattinson, I will be mercifully short.  Have
    14        you ever met Mr. Nicholson?
    15        A.  No -- met him?  No.
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    17   Q.   When you were in Moscow with Mr. Preston, as you have said,
    18        there was a great number of other journalists or a large
    19        number of other journalists there at the same time; that is
    20        right, is it not?
         A.  Yes.
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    23   Q.   A number of whom, I expect you remember, wrote articles
    24        about the trip?
    25        A.  Yes.
    26
    27   Q.   You did not?
    28        A.  No.
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Mr. Rampton, you perfectly understandably
    31        stood up.  I should have given Ms. Steel an opportunity to
    32        cross-examine if she wanted to.  You do not want to?  Very
    33        well.
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    35   MS. STEEL:   No.
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    37   MR. RAMPTON:  (To the witness)  You have given us an account of
    38        your conversation with Mr. Preston about McDonald's and
    39        trade unions.  I know that these are not the exact words,
    40        because you did not make a note, you did not publish an
         article, you did not have a tape recorder.  I have
    42        understood that correctly?
    43        A.  Correct.
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    45   Q.   But the gist of it was that you got the impression that
    46        McDonald's was a non-union company, always had been and
    47        always would be; is that right?
    48        A.  Yes.
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    50   Q.   But Mr. Preston said something like: "We have no need for 
    51        unions, but we are not anti-union"? 
    52        A.  Yes. 
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    54   Q.   Whether you believed that or not, I am not concerned with,
    55        myself.  You got the impression that theirs was a non-union
    56        culture?
    57        A.  Yes.
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    59   Q.   You asked a question something like this:  "How is it that
    60        people are so happy working at McDonald's when their pay is