Day 169 - 04 Oct 95 - Page 10


     
     1   MS. STEEL:   All right, the troughs come out, they are taken out
     2        at the end of the night?
     3        A.  That is right, they are removeable, yes.
     4
     5   Q.   Are you talking about the leak being between where the
     6        trough is and where the grill is?
     7        A.  Sorry?
     8
     9   Q.   Are you talking about the leak being between where the
    10        trough is and where the grill is?
    11        A.  If there was a leak, it would normally occur at the
    12        back of the trough, yes, so, it would -- there would be a
    13        leak at the back, so it would be the grease would fall into
    14        the trough and then it may drip onto the floor at the
    15        back.  That is correct.
    16
    17   Q.   I know you would not do it, but supposing you took the
    18        trough and put it on the floor and filled it full of
    19        grease, is it the trough itself that is actually leaking or
    20        is it the seam between the trough and the grill that is
    21        leaking?
    22        A.  No, it is the trough itself, I mean, but it is not
    23        always that full.  It could be a problem with the stand
    24        that the trough sits on, for instance.  I am not -- I did
    25        not say that it specifically leaks every single week.  What
    26        I said was there was a problem with it probably on a weekly
    27        basis or maybe a fortnightly basis.
    28
    29   Q.   About the undercooking of products -----
    30
    31   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, are we leaving the grease trough because,
    32        if we are, then, unless I am mistaken, it has not been
    33        suggested by the Defendants why this leaking grease trough
    34        constituted, if it did, as Mr. Logan says, a safety
    35        hazard.
    36
    37   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It was suggested yesterday that, as
    38        I understand it, or it may be that Mr. Richards -- where is
    39        it in the -----
    40
    41   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, it is on the eighth page at the top.
    42        Mr. Logan alleges that it was not repaired because it would
    43        have cost too much money to have it repaired; that it ought
    44        to have been repaired whatever it might have cost because
    45        it was a safety hazard.  I do not know that I distinctly
    46        heard either of those allegations put.
    47
    48   MS. STEEL:   Dave actually thinks he did put it to the witness
    49        yesterday.
    50 
    51   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not think you have.  I think the 
    52        question of non-repair because of cost, I do not recall 
    53        being put.  The nearest we have got to danger was that my
    54        recollection is that Mr. Richards volunteered that it was
    55        not where people walked, but it was not expressly put that
    56        it fell here or there where it would create a specific
    57        danger.
    58
    59   MR. MORRIS:  I asked him whether it would come out, if a large
    60        amount of grease came through, whether it would come out on

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