Day 160 - 21 Jul 95 - Page 06
1 MR. MORRIS: He seems to have all sorts of details which I did
2 not, but maybe that is just standard practice.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, I do not think so. He is just speaking
5 from his experience of other cases.
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7 MR. RAMPTON: I have been told, as far as I know, that I am
8 expected to be there because, as sometimes happens in these
9 cases with leave to appeal, the Court of Appeal likes to
10 hear both of the parties.
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12 MR. MORRIS: As far as I am concerned, it is ex parte. It is
13 nothing to do with the Plaintiffs.
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15 MR. RAMPTON: That is the Court of Appeal's business, not
16 Mr. Morris'.
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18 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If the other side gets to hear of an ex parte
19 application, either because they have given formal notice
20 or they get to hear anyway, they can turn up. Whether the
21 court wants to hear them or not is another matter. For all
22 I know, the Court of Appeal may have indicated they would
23 welcome Mr. Rampton's attendance; I just do not know.
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25 MR. RAMPTON: That is my understanding of it, my Lord.
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27 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Would you like to just tell Ms. Steel how far
28 we have got with regard to today's proceedings?
29 Mrs. Farrer, would you just sit at the back for a moment in
30 case there is anything further?
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32 MR. MORRIS: As I understand it, if our matters are not resolved
33 by 1.00, then are we abandoning this afternoon or are we
34 going to start at half past 2?
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36 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I think the answer is this: If you are not
37 finished by 1.00 but it is pretty apparent that you are
38 going to be finished by quarter past two, then we might
39 resume at, say, half past and see if we can finish
40 Mrs. Farrer. I am only doing this because I would like to
41 help Mrs. Farrer, if possible. If, come 1 o'clock, you are
42 not finished and there are matters of some substance still
43 to be raised in the afternoon, then I think we will have to
44 call it a day and say we will do no more in this case until
45 Monday morning.
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47 MR. RAMPTON: What we will do, with your Lordship's permission,
48 is when we speak to Mrs. Farrer at, say, 1 o'clock, or just
49 after, if we think that she could be back in the witness
50 box by half past two we will ask her to come back,
51 otherwise we will say do not come back.
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Is there anything more you want to say about
54 that or anything Ms. Steel wants to say?
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56 MR. MORRIS: No.
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58 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Someone keep Mr. Dudley in touch with what is
59 happening. We will not sit again on this matter in this
60 court before 2 o'clock this afternoon. If there is a real