Day 159 - 20 Jul 95 - Page 14
1 My Lord, for No. 1, that is the Bob Dunn Report, that is
2 being looked into. I have not got an answer for it yet.
3 My Lord, what we propose for all but one of the English
4 items is that we should give an answer or disclose the
5 document, or some part of it, by Monday, 7th August, at the
6 latest, that is to say, 14 days from next Monday. It does
7 not mean that quite a considerable amount of the English
8 material will not be disclosed before then; it may well be
9 that it will be. So I will offer your Lordship -----
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Which numbers are those, do you have them?
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13 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, yes. They are Nos. 1 and 2 (which
14 Mr. Atkinson is attending to), the Operations and Training
15 Manual; 3, the Personnel Procedures Manual which is in hand
16 through Miss Lyn Mead; the same for No. 4 and No. 5;
17 No. 10, there is a bit of delay on that in that Mrs. Barnes
18 (whose province this is) has only just come back from
19 holiday, but again 14 days from 24th July, we are quite
20 happy with. The same for No. 14, that is just to see
21 whether there were any minutes during the period when
22 Mrs. Barnes was on maternity leave, if so, whether there
23 was anything of relevance in them, if there are any.
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25 My Lord, so far as England is concerned, the only one where
26 I ask for more than 14 days from 14th July is No. 13 which
27 are the enquiry agents' notes of meetings. The reason for
28 that is, well, first, that we are in the holiday period at
29 the moment and one does not know quite who one is going to
30 be able to get hold of at any one time; second, we are not
31 at all sure whether we have those notes or all of them or
32 some of them, that is to say, the notes relevant to the
33 meetings referred to in the supplemental statement.
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35 So, my Lord, in that case I would ask for 28 days from 24th
36 July, or do I mean five weeks -- if I ask for 28 days that
37 takes me up, I think, to 21st August. They are simply for
38 administrative purposes.
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40 My Lord, the three American ones which your Lordship asked
41 us to deal with are 7, 9 and 12. Those have already been
42 passed to the Americans together with the relevant parts of
43 this ruling. It is in hand. Again it is a holiday period
44 in America. We do not know who precisely are the people
45 that will be dealing with it. For that reason, my Lord,
46 I would ask your Lordship to say that our deadline for that
47 material (though it may well come sooner) should be Monday,
48 28th August.
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50 My Lord, that is all I think we have to do under the terms
51 of that ruling. I do not know whether your Lordship would
52 want me to draw attention to the various typed -----
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54 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. I have since perfected the judgment and
55 I have made some slight corrections which I noticed, but
56 please tell me and I will make sure they are incorporated.
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58 MR. RAMPTON: Yes, my Lord, page 4, five lines from the bottom.
59 They are "hide","de", not "high","gh", puller chains -- the
60 third word from the end of the line.