Day 159 - 20 Jul 95 - Page 13
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2 MR. RAMPTON: They are.
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4 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I never realised that Amazon tributaries
5 started almost on the West coast, the Pacific coast of
6 Equador. They get within a few miles of the coast.
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8 MR. RAMPTON: One can spend endless time .....
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10 MR. MORRIS: Could we have a view, a visit, out there?
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I will try not to get too involved with them,
13 but I would like them here unless I need to look at them.
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15 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, why I mention this is that, first of all,
16 it is a much bigger scale than any of the others; secondly,
17 it shows a clear example of where the flood plain of
18 Paraguay is and, third, and just as important, it shows
19 much more clearly than the copy I gave your Lordship
20 yesterday where the state boundaries are for Mato Grosso
21 and Goias. I do not know if your Lordship wants to borrow
22 this?
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24 MR. JUSTICE BELL: If it could be folded up and left with the
25 atlases on my table, I would be grateful.
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27 MS. STEEL: I do not think there is anything I need
28 particularly to say.
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30 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Thank you. The other matter was that in the
31 ruling I gave on a variety of procedural matters the other
32 day I left over the question of when various things could
33 be done. If I am just given a moment to find my ruling.
34 Yes?
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36 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, there are, I think, also some errors of
37 typography. Perhaps I could deal with those very briefly
38 afterwards.
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40 The various topics that we have to deal with start on page
41 12 of your Lordship's ruling. Their numbers, as your
42 Lordship has helpfully set out at the end of the judgment,
43 are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12 and 13. In fact, I think
44 we also have to deal with 14, but I will come to that as we
45 go through it. I should say that of the 14 things that we
46 have to do, 11 are UK questions and three are United States
47 matters. No. 1 is the Bob Dunn Report. All the matters,
48 all 14 of them, are now in hand. We started long ever
49 before today.
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51 So far as any questions, how much of the document is
52 disclosable or whether it is disclosable at all, so far as
53 that question is concerned, there are a number of documents
54 which I myself will want to look at before ever any
55 discovery is made for various reasons, not least that we
56 are still in court. I will not be able to do that until
57 your Lordship rises at the end of next Tuesday, which is
58 one of the reasons why we will need a little more time than
59 otherwise might have been necessary.
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