Day 159 - 20 Jul 95 - Page 13


     
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     2   MR. RAMPTON:  They are.
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     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I never realised that Amazon tributaries
     5        started almost on the West coast, the Pacific coast of
     6        Equador.  They get within a few miles of the coast.
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     8   MR. RAMPTON:  One can spend endless time .....
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    10   MR. MORRIS:  Could we have a view, a visit, out there?
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will try not to get too involved with them,
    13        but I would like them here unless I need to look at them.
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    15   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, why I mention this is that, first of all,
    16        it is a much bigger scale than any of the others; secondly,
    17        it shows a clear example of where the flood plain of
    18        Paraguay is and, third, and just as important, it shows
    19        much more clearly than the copy I gave your Lordship
    20        yesterday where the state boundaries are for Mato Grosso
    21        and Goias.  I do not know if your Lordship wants to borrow
    22        this?
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    24   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If it could be folded up and left with the
    25        atlases on my table, I would be grateful.
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    27   MS. STEEL:   I do not think there is anything I need
    28        particularly to say.
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    30   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Thank you.  The other matter was that in the
    31        ruling I gave on a variety of procedural matters the other
    32        day I left over the question of when various things could
    33        be done.  If I am just given a moment to find my ruling.
    34        Yes?
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    36   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, there are, I think, also some errors of
    37        typography.  Perhaps I could deal with those very briefly
    38        afterwards.
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    40        The various topics that we have to deal with start on page
    41        12 of your Lordship's ruling.  Their numbers, as your
    42        Lordship has helpfully set out at the end of the judgment,
    43        are 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 7, 9, 10, 12 and 13.  In fact, I think
    44        we also have to deal with 14, but I will come to that as we
    45        go through it.  I should say that of the 14 things that we
    46        have to do, 11 are UK questions and three are United States
    47        matters.  No. 1 is the Bob Dunn Report.  All the matters,
    48        all 14 of them, are now in hand.  We started long ever
    49        before today.
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    51        So far as any questions, how much of the document is 
    52        disclosable or whether it is disclosable at all, so far as 
    53        that question is concerned, there are a number of documents
    54        which I myself will want to look at before ever any
    55        discovery is made for various reasons, not least that we
    56        are still in court.  I will not be able to do that until
    57        your Lordship rises at the end of next Tuesday, which is
    58        one of the reasons why we will need a little more time than
    59        otherwise might have been necessary.
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