Day 154 - 13 Jul 95 - Page 07

     
     1   Q.   That is what is in the transcript on day 152, page 57,
     2        line three.  You said:  "I could not previously remember
     3        them at all."
     4        A.  No.  If I said that, that is not what I meant.  What
     5        I meant was I could not remember the reason for their
     6        formation.  I could vaguely remember the McDonald's Freedom
     7        Fighters prior to that occasion, but I could not remember
     8        specifically, you know, what constituted the formation of
     9        the so-called group.
    10
    11   Q.   Your memory was jogged about the skinhead incident leading
    12        to the formation of the McDonald's Freedom Fighters on
    13        Monday, I think you said.  You were giving your evidence on
    14        Tuesday, and you said "yesterday".
    15        A.  Some time this week, yes.
    16
    17   Q.   What did Mrs. Brinley-Codd say about the skinhead incident?
    18        A.  She just said:  "Do you remember a skinhead incident
    19        happening in Colchester?"
    20
    Q.   So you previously had not mentioned the skinhead incident
    22        to her?
    23        A.  No.
    24
    25   Q.   Who are the people that you remember being involved with
    26        the McDonald's Freedom Fighters?
    27        A.  I cannot actually remember specific people.  I know
    28        there was a group of about four, sort of 18 to 20 year
    29        olds, that sort of age.
    30
    31   Q.   Omid Shafibeck?
    32        A.  I do not specifically remember him being part of it.
    33
    34   Q.   Robert Pilgrim?
    35        A.  Possibly.
    36
    37   Q.   Phil Claydon?
    38        A.  Possibly.
    39
    40   Q.   Julian Keogh?
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What was the name?  How do you spell his name
    43        surname?
    44
    45   MS. STEEL:  K-E-O-G-H; and Paul Jackson?
    46        A.  Yes, those sort of names.  If I were to picture the
    47        people, that might concur with those -- apart from Omid,
    48        I would not imagine him being part of that group.
    49
    50   Q.   He actually said in his statement that he was one of the 
    51        people that founded them? 
    52        A.  Did he? 
    53
    54   Q.   You said in your statement it was possible that you did say
    55        to either Robert Pilgrim -----
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Could I just ask: why not Omid?  What was
    58        there about the Freedom Fighters or about Omid which makes
    59        you think that that was unlikely?
    60        A.  Just the fact that the other names mentioned were sort