Day 144 - 28 Jun 95 - Page 58


     
     1   MS. STEEL:   I just want to come back to the question that
     2        Mr. Morris asked you.  It really is not that complicated a
     3        question, is it, Mr. Stein?  You are just trying to avoid
     4        answering.  If you do not get a performance review you stay
     5        on the starting rate?
     6        A.  Now you are asking a simple question.
     7
     8   Q.   That is what Mr. Morris asked.  He said: "Well, if they do
     9        not get performance reviews..."
    10        A.  That is not what Mr. Morris asked at all.
    11
    12   Q.   I am reading it.
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Stop, Ms. Steel.  Put your question by all
    15        means but we will never get anywhere if instead of asking a
    16        new question one has an argument, whether it is justified
    17        arguing with the witness or not, about what has just been
    18        said.  It is just more productive to put a new question.
    19
    20   MS. STEEL:  I have it in front of me.  It says ----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, I know.  I do not want you to go back to
    23        what was said five minutes ago.  Put a new question by all
    24        means.
    25
    26   MS. STEEL:  Well, the witness did not answer and I think he
    27        ought to.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Ask the question.
    30
    31   MS. STEEL:  "Well, if they do not get a performance review they
    32        will stay on the starting rate"?
    33        A.  Whatever their starting rate was.  If they do not get a
    34        wage review, whatever their starting rate was, that is what
    35        they will continue at.  We have also talked about they do
    36        get reviews over a period of time.
    37
    38   Q.   Mr. Morris' question was quite simple.  You are just trying
    39        to avoid answering it.
    40
    41   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not believe Ms. Steel should be
    42        allowed to stand there and insult the witness.  There is a
    43        rule about this and I can read it to your Lordship.  It is
    44        in Phipson.  "Cross-examination which is designed ..."
    45
    46   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Quite frankly, I think this is a totally arid
    47        argument now.  I am interested in evidence in addition to
    48        what I have heard so far.  I would like questions to be
    49        directed at obtaining new information which, one way or the
    50        other, might help me to a conclusion in the case.  All 
    51        I was saying a moment ago is that it is unproductive to 
    52        argue about what the answer was to a question which has 
    53        been asked in the past rather than asking a fresh question
    54        and, hopefully, getting a fresh answer.
    55
    56   MS. STEEL:  The reason I brought it up is because I am trying to
    57        make the point that I actually do think that the witness is
    58        continually avoiding answering questions.
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  This is not the moment to do it.  I have

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