Day 144 - 28 Jun 95 - Page 46


     
     1   Q.   Mr. Stein, this barometer question, "I get paid for all
     2        hours worked" is a statement of fact or not?
     3        A.  It is a statement of how people interpret it; they can
     4        be interpreted in many different ways.  I am trying to
     5        explain that this is not black or white.  This is how they
     6        interpret something.  You want their expressions.  They may
     7        be right, they may be wrong but you want their expression.
     8
     9   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I understand that, that any one of the 82 or
    10        7 might be wrong or might be right, might be correct in
    11        their answer.  But, however that may be, they appear to
    12        have been able to express a positive answer?
    13        A.  Yes.
    14
    15   Q.   Because we have a central column with 11 in it which,
    16        presumably, covers those who are in some doubt or given an
    17        equivocal answer, or just do not know; that is the most we
    18        can get from the paper, is it not?
    19        A.  It is, my Lord, but my only point is, it is not as
    20        precise, people's interpretations.  There are a lot of
    21        things that go through people's minds when they are dealing
    22        with this.  If someone is for some reason not happy at the
    23        moment, they could very well score "disagrees" all the way
    24        through.  A lot of things run into people's motivation
    25        within they fill these out.  That is the only point I am
    26        trying to make, my Lord.
    27
    28   MS. STEEL:  Mr. Stein, you are quite happy to say that 82 per
    29        cent are strongly agreeing with the suggestion; how do you
    30        know they are not confused?
    31        A.  And I am saying to you, you cannot look at this thing
    32        as a precise black or white measurement.  That goes to
    33        either of those sides.
    34
    35   Q.   You said ---
    36        A.  But I am pleased with it.
    37
    38   Q.   -- "What I look at in this question, my Lord, is that if 82
    39        per cent of any crew can agree that strongly on something
    40        like that", and then you went on.  So why is it that you
    41        treat the 82 per cent as agreeing that strongly; whereas
    42        the percentage that disagree is because they are confused
    43        or whatever?
    44        A.  No, I would go back to what I said before.  The Manager
    45        is trying to determine the priorities of where the Manager,
    46        he or she, should be directing their efforts to make the
    47        store as good as possible.  So when there is a very high
    48        response such as that, that is not a key priority within
    49        the organisation, others may be a greater priority.
    50 
    51        You cannot work on everything at one time.  You have to 
    52        establish your priorities, and the intent is to continually 
    53        move the store forward and make it as good of a place as
    54        you can.  So you set priorities, you set your action plan
    55        and you move ahead and you keep pushing ahead.
    56
    57   Q.   Mr. Stein, the position is, is it not, that you just do not
    58        want to hear and do not want to believe anything that is
    59        critical of your Company?
    60        A.  No.  The reason we do surveys is because, and the

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