Day 144 - 28 Jun 95 - Page 40


     
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     2   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can I make a suggestion?  We could spend the
     3        whole day going through this.  What I suggest you do, you
     4        have asked a few questions about the rewards; pick the
     5        highlights and put to Mr. Stein the line which I thought
     6        you had in mind when you came to this document in the first
     7        place, which is why I asked the questions I did at the
     8        beginning ---
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    10   MR. MORRIS:  Yes, I understand.
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    12   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  -- and leave the rest for comment.  Take your
    13        highlights, in other words.
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    15   THE WITNESS:  My Lord, could I just make one comment?
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    17   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
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    19   THE WITNESS:  In this area I have executives that I am
    20        responsible for, that when I sit down to give them their
    21        annual increase in many occasions have said to me:  "Oh,
    22        you mean it is time for my increase?  Oh, OK.  What was
    23        I making?"  People -- this is not something that everyone
    24         -- some people are really interested in knowing and some
    25        people are not real interested in knowing.  Even if you
    26        tell someone such and such is the case, some people retain
    27        it, some people do not retain it.
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    29        Everything is relative in this area, my Lord.  It just
    30        tells you -- you assess your priorities on where you want
    31        to focus your attention as a result of this thing.  But it
    32        does not say something is broke or not broke, but it does
    33        your attention -----
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    35   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am only too well aware that the MCD has a
    36        single column whereas the individual surveys -- in this
    37        case the UK -- has an "Agree", question mark, and
    38        "Disagree".  I am aware of that.  What I am encouraging
    39        Mr. Morris is just pick your highlights, put a question or
    40        two on it, and then leave the rest for argument in due
    41        course if you consider it important at the end of the day.
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    43   MR. MORRIS:  Does it concern you, if you look down the bottom of
    44        that "Rewards" section -- it is actually numbered 4 -- "Pay
    45        increases, about what I expected", only 39 per cent of
    46        those surveyed agreed that their pay increases were about
    47        what they expected?
    48        A.  When it comes to pay (and I have had lots of
    49        discussions with experts in this area) everyone wants more
    50        then they are making or would be happy to get more.  You 
    51        expect a question like that not to score very high. 
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    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is fair to assume that those who did not
    54        get what they expected got less rather than more, is it
    55        not?
    56        A.  Or it was what they -- was planned for but they would
    57        have loved to have had more.  What goes through people's
    58        mind, my Lord, there are different -----
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    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not worry about it.

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