Day 144 - 28 Jun 95 - Page 40
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2 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Can I make a suggestion? We could spend the
3 whole day going through this. What I suggest you do, you
4 have asked a few questions about the rewards; pick the
5 highlights and put to Mr. Stein the line which I thought
6 you had in mind when you came to this document in the first
7 place, which is why I asked the questions I did at the
8 beginning ---
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10 MR. MORRIS: Yes, I understand.
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12 MR. JUSTICE BELL: -- and leave the rest for comment. Take your
13 highlights, in other words.
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15 THE WITNESS: My Lord, could I just make one comment?
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17 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes.
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19 THE WITNESS: In this area I have executives that I am
20 responsible for, that when I sit down to give them their
21 annual increase in many occasions have said to me: "Oh,
22 you mean it is time for my increase? Oh, OK. What was
23 I making?" People -- this is not something that everyone
24 -- some people are really interested in knowing and some
25 people are not real interested in knowing. Even if you
26 tell someone such and such is the case, some people retain
27 it, some people do not retain it.
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29 Everything is relative in this area, my Lord. It just
30 tells you -- you assess your priorities on where you want
31 to focus your attention as a result of this thing. But it
32 does not say something is broke or not broke, but it does
33 your attention -----
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I am only too well aware that the MCD has a
36 single column whereas the individual surveys -- in this
37 case the UK -- has an "Agree", question mark, and
38 "Disagree". I am aware of that. What I am encouraging
39 Mr. Morris is just pick your highlights, put a question or
40 two on it, and then leave the rest for argument in due
41 course if you consider it important at the end of the day.
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43 MR. MORRIS: Does it concern you, if you look down the bottom of
44 that "Rewards" section -- it is actually numbered 4 -- "Pay
45 increases, about what I expected", only 39 per cent of
46 those surveyed agreed that their pay increases were about
47 what they expected?
48 A. When it comes to pay (and I have had lots of
49 discussions with experts in this area) everyone wants more
50 then they are making or would be happy to get more. You
51 expect a question like that not to score very high.
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53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It is fair to assume that those who did not
54 get what they expected got less rather than more, is it
55 not?
56 A. Or it was what they -- was planned for but they would
57 have loved to have had more. What goes through people's
58 mind, my Lord, there are different -----
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60 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Do not worry about it.