Day 144 - 28 Jun 95 - Page 35

     
     1        A.  They can do it through other -----
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     3   Q.   But your claim has been that rap sessions are specifically
     4        for that purpose?
     5        A.  But there are other things that are specifically for
     6        that purpose.  We are talking about, how do you communicate
     7        with people?
     8
     9   Q.   Yes, but are you saying that rap sessions are not any
    10        different to other meetings then?
    11        A.  No, that is not what I am saying, but you raised a
    12        specific instance of a type of communication, and I am
    13        saying to you that rap sessions is a way of facilitating
    14        that kind of communication, but there are also other ways
    15        of facilitating that kind of communication.
    16
    17   Q.   But, for example, if rap sessions were occurring frequently
    18        during this dispute in Canada, in Ontario, then I am trying
    19        to say is that general, normal laboratory conditions?
    20        A.  I would say so.  There is nothing unusual with holding
         frequent rap sessions at all.
    22
    23   Q.   They should be heard every three months or something like
    24        that?
    25        A.  No.
    26
    27   Q.   Or less?
    28        A.  You are twisting what I am saying.  I am saying to you
    29        that each owner/operator, each Company store, has its own
    30        style of communicating.  We have recommended ways of doing
    31        it.  They use those recommended ways when they choose to.
    32        They use other ways when they choose to.  There is no
    33        set -- people do not do things exactly the same way.  They
    34        use their good judgment on how they need to communicate.
    35
    36   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I think we may be going around and around in
    37        circles here.  If it were the fact that rap sessions were
    38        held more frequently than had hitherto been normal there in
    39        the run up to the election, would there be anything wrong
    40        with that?
         A.  No, my Lord.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  The fact is rap sessions in the USA are not held
    44        every six weeks or every three months?
    45        A.  No, they maybe held weekly or they may be held monthly
    46        or they may be held a variety of different times.
    47
    48   Q.   What is your policy then?  What do you recommend?  What is
    49        your recommended frequency for rap sessions in the USA?
    50        A.  Based upon the judgment of the store management people, 
    51        they should hold these sessions.  They are running and 
    52        operating their restaurants. 
    53
    54   Q.   What is the guideline?
    55        A.  They need to make judgment decisions.
    56
    57   Q.   What is the guideline for the frequency of rap sessions in
    58        McOpco Company controlled stores?
    59        A.  I like to see them happen at least every three months
    60         -- at least.