Day 144 - 28 Jun 95 - Page 29


     
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     2   MS. STEEL:  "Also during this time Cam held a crew event which
     3        are pretty regular.  Crew events are sponsored by Cam in
     4        which almost all of the staff get together and play
     5        activities.  At this particular crew event the theme was
     6        Olympic bob sleighing"?
     7        A.  Excuse me, I am sorry?
     8
     9   Q.   "At this particular crew event the theme was Olympic bob
    10        sledging"?
    11        A.  OK.
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    13   Q.   "The crew simply was supposed to go tobogganing.  Then
    14        I believe Cam decided to throw in some creative art in the
    15        snow.  He had people lie down in the snow in the form of
    16         'no'" -- that is the letters "NO" -- "and the managers
    17        yelled out:  'Do we need a union?'  The crew obviously was
    18        supposed to reply:  'No'."  Are you aware of that?
    19        A.  Not as you describe it.  I saw a video tape.  It was
    20        the Canadian broadcasting system.  The union had secured a
    21        fair amount of publicity in this campaign, my Lord.  Sarah
    22        herself was on a national television programme early on in
    23        this proceeding, "What is my line?" kind of thing, where
    24        you have a panel and it guesses what the person is doing.
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    26        So the union had garnered, if you will, a great deal of
    27        publicity concerning the matter.  In that particular
    28        instance, because I saw the video tape, it was a British
    29        broadcasting video tape of a -- it was a video tape of a
    30        British broadcast news report, and the news -- what had
    31        happened was the newspaper, the TV reporter had followed
    32        the crew to their event that Sarah has described, and he
    33        was describing what was the activity that was going on and
    34        the setting and all that.
    35
    36        What I saw was crew people come up behind him, as people
    37        try to do to get on TV, and they then fell to the snow,
    38        (indecipherable).  He said -- he did say that they just
    39        spelled out "Vote no", but it would be very difficult for
    40        me from that video to know what they were doing because
    41        they were what I call hamming it up for the TV camera.  But
    42        there is a broadcast of that that maybe you ought to take a
    43        look at.
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    45   MS. STEEL:  When you heard this and saw this, did you take any
    46        action concerning this?
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    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Take it step by step.  What you saw on the
    49        television, was that wrong, was anything wrong, you saw, on
    50        the television? 
    51        A.  It was exclusively crew people, my Lord, and they were 
    52        acting out there, having fun. 
    53
    54   Q.   Just say -- all I want to know is whether you think ---
    55        A.  No.
    56
    57   Q.   -- there is anything wrong in what you saw?
    58        A.  No, my Lord, I saw nothing wrong.  The reporter, in my
    59        estimation, should not have been there but he had followed
    60        the group and -- but nothing I saw was wrong.  The crew was

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