Day 141 - 23 Jun 95 - Page 30

     
     1        except for maybe some pickets being outside the restaurant.
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     3   Q.   What possible relevance has this dispute got with human
     4        relations at McDonald's?
     5        A.  I think I have told you once before that because of my
     6        background with the NLRB, the NLRB handles secondary
     7        boycott matters, and because of that the Company calls upon
     8        my expertise to do those things, to work on those.  I am
     9        the only person with that kind of a background, that kind
    10        of knowledge, within the Company, so they ask me to handle
    11        those things.
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    13   Q.   So the McDonald's Corporation cannot afford to employ
    14        anybody else who is capable of knowing what the laws are on
    15        secondary boycotts, and has to use its Senior Vice Chair,
    16        Senior Vice President, who is meant to be in charge of
    17        Human Relations, to go and deal with secondary boycotts?
    18        A.  I do not agree with anything you are saying and, very
    19        fortunately, secondary boycotts do not happen very often at
    20        McDonald's.  We have had some -- a couple of examples but
         that really does not occur very often and, frankly, to
    22        employ someone specifically to do something that rarely
    23        occurs I think would be foolhardy.
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    25   Q.   The point is these are secondary boycotts by unions or
    26        potential unions, as in the case of PUP that we heard, and
    27        that is why you went there because you are determined to
    28        ensure that no union sympathies shall be allowed to be
    29        communicated to your workers, and your workers shall not be
    30        allowed to start organising or joining or sympathising with
    31        trade unions?
    32        A.  Totally untrue.  I have told you that -- I have told
    33        you that I was there because it had no concern whatsoever
    34        over unions affecting McDonald's employees.  This had to do
    35        with a boycott, a consumer boycott, of our restaurants that
    36        we certainly would not want to happen.  It had nothing to
    37        do with our employees.
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    39   MR. MORRIS:  Would that be a good time to stop?
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    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  If you have anything more to ask about
    42        Bruce Church?
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    44   MR. MORRIS:  No.
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    46   MR. RAMPTON:  I have now the original of the American franchisee
    47        Crew Handbook.  Just so Barlows shall not be accused of
    48        forgery, two pages are in fact missing, 6 and 7, and they
    49        deal with communication. We will copy them and give them
    50        out. 
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    52   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Copy them or lend the original to Ms. Steel 
    53        or Mr. Morris.  We will resume at 10.30 on Monday.
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    55        (The court adjourned until Monday 26th June 1995).
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