Day 141 - 23 Jun 95 - Page 27
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2 Q. So the staff wanted to be represented by a union?
3 A. What was told to us by the employees was that they did
4 not want to be represented by a union, but they were
5 concerned that they wanted to get back to work as quickly
6 as possible and they thought this other union might be able
7 to accelerate the process. That is why they went to the
8 other union.
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10 Q. Since that day all the stores in Mexico have been unionised
11 100 per cent?
12 A. They are all union.
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14 Q. They are all union stores. Staff have not been beating
15 down the doors, whether it is a subsidiary or joint venture
16 partner, or whatever, demanding not to be in a union or
17 demanding that there is no union?
18 A. There has been a very good Labour Relations
19 relationship. There are no issues whatsoever that I am
20 aware of in Mexico.
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22 Q. So, effectively or objectively, CROC was successful in
23 ensuring that all McDonald's stores were unionised?
24 A. If you will, I do not want to draw conclusions but CROC
25 was not successful. They transferred whatever rights they
26 had over to another union and said: "You take it". They
27 did not accomplish what they wanted. None of the employees
28 wanted them. They were about to lose an election in a big
29 time way, and they turned it over to a union that the
30 employees indicated they wanted. That is what CROC did.
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32 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, if we have left Mexico City or are
33 intending to leave Mexico City, I am not clear -- I do not
34 know if your Lordship is -- whether Mr. Morris is
35 challenging the veracity of the account -----
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37 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think you need ask because I can see
38 what is challenged and what is not.
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40 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, I was not clear whether it was or whether
41 it was not from the questions.
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43 MR. JUSTICE BELL: It has not been.
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45 MR. RAMPTON: If your Lordship says it has not been, then I need
46 not re-examine on it. That is all I need to know. I had
47 thought there was something said.
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49 MR. MORRIS: I am looking to see if there is anything else we
50 can get in before the end of the day.
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52 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Sit down and see if you can fill up five
53 minutes.
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55 MR. RAMPTON: My Lord, it was only this passage that worried me
56 -- it is only because it affects my re-examination -- is
57 page 24, line 56, I think it is. Mr. Morris put this
58 question: "If your account is true about the intimidation
59 and the baseball bats of this other union, why was it, so
60 far as you could ascertain, that for three weeks when your
