Day 141 - 23 Jun 95 - Page 26

     
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     2   Q.   Until an agreement was made?
     3        A.  Until the dispute was resolved.
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     5   Q.   The dispute was resolved.  The union voluntarily passed on
     6        their, what is the word ---
     7        A.  Rights.
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     9   Q.   -- rights to another union?
    10        A.  Yes.
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    12   Q.   That was all agreed amicably at the end?
    13        A.  Yes, whatever their rights were, they passed it on to
    14        the other union.
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    16   Q.   You had meetings with the Under Secretary of Labour?
    17        A.  Yes.
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    19   Q.   You told him that -----
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    MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I know all this.
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    23   MR. MORRIS:  No, I understand that.
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    25   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Try not to go through it again.
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    27   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  I am sorry.  I am just trying to build up to
    28        a question.  (To the witness):  If your account is true
    29        about the intimidation and the baseball bats, and all those
    30        other matters, of this other union, why was it, as far as
    31        you could ascertain, that for three weeks when your
    32        property was taken over there was no action by the
    33        authorities ---
    34        A.  With all -----
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    36   Q.   -- to clear them out?
    37        A.  With all due respect for Mexico, when there is a labour
    38        dispute they will not take action until there is an
    39        election that finally determines the rights.  It is a
    40        practice.  It is a policy.  They just do not -- they will
         not interfere.  The same way that when I saw Police going
    42        by and was concerned about the safety of people, I tried to
    43        flag them down and they would not stop.  They will not
    44        interfere in a "labour matter", as they say.  They will not
    45        get involved.
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    47   Q.   The reality is, is it not, Mr. Stein, that because
    48        McDonald's had acted unlawfully or illegally in packing out
    49        the store at the traditional time, then McDonald's did not
    50        have a leg to stand on in this situation, in this dispute? 
    51        A.  Totally untrue. 
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    53   Q.   The result of the dispute was that all the employees joined
    54        this other union which CROC had abrogated their right to,
    55        or passed on their right to, is that correct, specifically
    56        that other union?
    57        A.  I think you are distorting what the facts are.  To our
    58        knowledge, what our employees did was when the facility was
    59        shut down, they turned to another union to try to help them
    60        end this matter with the CROC union.