Day 141 - 23 Jun 95 - Page 07


     
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     2   Q.   Do you understand what I am putting to you by way of
     3        example?
     4        A.  I believe I do.
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     6   Q.   Is that what happened with regard to Tower's, or are those
     7        actual six pages which we have what were actually handed to
     8        you as six pages by Tower's, or was some other method of
     9        making that six-page document used?
    10        A.  My Lord -- to try to avoid any confusion -- there was a
    11        summary such as this on the top of the report they gave me,
    12        and then there was detailed store by store information
    13        underneath that report, supporting the seven pages.  I do
    14        not have the details.  I took these four pages and, to use
    15        your term, made that into a document and deleted the
    16        corresponding detail after I looked at it.
    17
    18   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes, Ms. Steel.
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    20   MS. STEEL:  That was done for the purposes of this case?
    21        A.  No, it was not done for the purpose of this case at
    22        all.  It was done for the purpose of what I needed and was
    23        going to be disseminating back in -- during the PUP matter
    24        back in 1990/91.
    25
    26   Q.   It is just that you earlier said, a few minutes ago, it is
    27        a summary that was extracted from TPF&C's documents and
    28        produced to the court?
    29        A.  That is correct.  That was produced to the court.  That
    30        document that I used in 1990/1991 has also been produced to
    31        the court.
    32
    33   Q.   So you extracted this from the report?
    34        A.  This was the summary of the report, yes.
    35
    36   Q.   And gave it to the court?
    37        A.  I extracted it in 1990/1991 because I needed to
    38        disseminate this summary to members of the community and
    39        others; and this is the report that we made many, many
    40        copies of and utilised back then.
    41
    42   Q.   When you extracted it in 1991 ---
    43        A.  Do you mean in ------
    44
    45   Q.   -- in 1990/1991, do you know when that was?
    46        A.  Late summer, fall.
    47
    48   Q.   You did not get the report until October 1990, did you?
    49        A.  Right.  They did their work during the summer, if
    50        I recall correctly, and we got it -- well, around October, 
    51        OK. 
    52 
    53   Q.   So when did you extract this?
    54        A.  At the meeting where they presented the information to
    55        me, I took a look at it, and that was the time that this
    56        came into existence.
    57
    58   Q.   You kept the rest of the report secret; you never let
    59        anybody see it? (Pause)  It was in 1991 that the nuns wrote
    60        to you, asking to see a copy of the full report -- asking

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