Day 140 - 22 Jun 95 - Page 31


     
     1        meeting with her and the other sisters; and she felt
     2        satisfied with what she had and did not request an
     3        additional meeting.
     4
     5   MS. STEEL:  So she did not see the report in the end?
     6        A.  No, she did not; and nor did she want to see the whole
     7        report after.
     8
     9   Q.   Nobody wanted to see the whole report?
    10        A.  I cannot say nobody did, but we were going to limit it
    11        to the community leaders and people such as that.
    12
    13   Q.   What was so secret about this report?
    14
    15   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Can we pause again?  So you did not actually
    16        offer her the full report; you had a telephone conversation
    17        with her where you answered questions that she raised, and
    18        you offered to hold another meeting?
    19        A.  My Lord, I offered to give her the full report.
    20        I offered to have another meeting.  She suggested that she
    21        had a series of questions, and a couple of different
    22        conversations.  At the conclusion of that, she said there
    23        was no need for an additional meeting.
    24
    25   MS. STEEL:  Did you give the copy of the full report to anybody
    26        at all outside of the Corporation?
    27        A.  Not that I recall.
    28
    29   Q.   What happened to this report?
    30        A.  After we used it and the matter was finished, it was
    31        disposed of.  There was no reason to keep it.
    32
    33   Q.   I see.  So you kept all the correspondence between you and
    34        these various community groups, you kept the PUP report,
    35        but you did not keep your own report?
    36        A.  Can I stop you there?  This is not all the
    37        correspondence that we had.  Apparently, this is all of it
    38        that was left, but, trust me, there was lots more
    39        correspondence.
    40
    41   Q.   Well, you kept the PUP report, but you did not keep your
    42        own report?
    43        A.  That is correct.  We kept the summary which had the
    44        essence of the full report and we kept the PUP report,
    45        apparently, and we kept some letters, but there is no full
    46        keeping of these things.  In fact, I did not keep,
    47        personally, any of these.  These were within my office and
    48        what we were able to dig out.
    49
    50   Q.   The case is, is it not, Mr. Stein, that it was your report 
    51        that was flawed, and you did not want anybody to see the 
    52        full report because you realised that they would be able to 
    53        criticise your methodology and pull your report to pieces?
    54        A.  Not at all.  The methodology is specifically set out in
    55        the summary report.  The rest of it was a lot of detail and
    56        a lot of stuff that was not really essential, and there was
    57        no reason to keep the extended report when the summary had
    58        all of the salient information on the methodology.
    59
    60   Q.   But it was essential to keep the PUP report?

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