Day 140 - 22 Jun 95 - Page 16

     
     1        A.  No, I do not, my Lord.
     2
     3   MS. STEEL:  What about New Jersey?
     4        A.  Yes, they do.
     5
     6   Q.   They do.  How long have they had minimum?
     7        A.  I think it has been for about -- I want to say three,
     8        four years.
     9
    10   Q.   Do you know how much their minimum is?
    11        A.  I believe it is around $5.
    12
    13   Q.   What about New York?
    14        A.  That one, I have to go back to my Michigan response:
    15        I think there is one there, but I am not sure.  I am a
    16        little more positive than Michigan but, boy, I would still
    17        be guessing.
    18
    19   Q.   Do you know about Delaware?
    20        A.  No.
    21
    22   Q.   They have not got one?
    23        A.  I do not know.
    24
    25   Q.   You do not know?
    26        A.  No.
    27
    28   Q.   Ohio?
    29        A.  I do not believe so, but, again, my Lord, I am
    30        guessing.
    31
    32   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Providing you just make -- if you say, "I do
    33        not believe so, but I am not sure", then we understand what
    34        your evidence is.
    35
    36   MS. STEEL:  What about California?
    37        A.  What I remember about California is that one time they
    38        had gone above the minimum -- the federal minimum, if you
    39        will.  Then the federal minimum caught up with them.  I am
    40        not sure what it is today.
    41
    42   Q.   Is it generally kind of the more usual urban that are
    43        likely to have it?
    44        A.  Not necessarily, no.  You are dealing with state
    45        legislatures, and the view of a state legislature, and
    46        whether it is urban or rural.  They make up their own mind,
    47        and I have never seen a pattern.
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Is there any Democratic/Republic pattern?
    50        A.  Excuse me, my Lord? 
    51 
    52   Q.   Presumably, within the state legislatures, there is or may 
    53        be either a Democrat or a Republican.  All I am asking is
    54        whether there is any tendency to go along party lines?
    55        A.  Sometimes it is, my Lord, but not necessarily all the
    56        time.  Some of it depends upon the fear that raising the
    57        minimum will cost jobs in the communities.
    58
    59   MS. STEEL:  Do some cities set rates, or is it just the states,
    60        apart from federal?