Day 140 - 22 Jun 95 - Page 10

     
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     2   MR. MORRIS:  I am just checking something.  So when Mr. Kelly in
     3        Detroit transferred people from outside his franchise
     4        stores to cover for when people were attending a meeting or
     5        a disco, then that would be an unusual event?
     6        A.  No.  We are talking about something totally different
     7        now.  I was talking about the transfer for normal everyday
     8        business activities.  I also testified, I am almost
     9        positive -- in fact, I am positive -- when we talked about
    10        Detroit, that for social events and other things when you
    11        want to bring all of your employees together -- our
    12        owner/operators like to do that -- they will then ask for
    13        another crew to come in for two or three hours.  That is a
    14        different context.  I was referring to the everyday
    15        business needs and the fact that, as business fluctuates
    16        within an organisation, they transfer people around
    17        frequently.
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    19   Q.   If we move on from Madrid, I want to deal with a brief
    20        matter.  It is, I think, pink XIV, tab 74.
         A.  74?
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    23   Q.   Yes.  This is a memo by John Cook, your predecessor, in
    24        terms of your present position; yes?
    25        A.  Yes, it appears to be.
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    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sure I have been told, but I do not have
    28        it immediately in mind:  when did you actually take your
    29        position?
    30        A.  I first started with McDonald's in June 1974.
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    32   Q.   I understand that, but -----
    33        A.  To head up Human Resources?
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    35   Q.   You did, you joined for that -----
    36        A.  No.
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    38   Q.   Because I had understood that John Cook hired you, and a
    39        time came later when it was suggested you step,
    40        figuratively speaking, into his shoes and became the Head
         of Human Resources.  When was that?
    42        A.  1981, my Lord.
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    44   MR. MORRIS:  You had a lot of discussions with John Cook?
    45        A.  Over the years, sure, I have had lots of discussions
    46        with John Cook.
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    48   Q.   You are aware of the controversy over the use of polygraph
    49        lie detector tests?
    50        A.  You are going to have to tell me what controversy you 
    51        are talking about. 
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    53   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Forget the word "controversy".  You were
    54        aware that polygraph tests were used by some people within
    55        the McDonald's system?
    56        A.  When I joined the Company?  Yes, I was aware of that
    57        when I joined the Company.
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    59   MR. MORRIS:  I am not going into any detail, because this was
    60        dealt with by Mr. Beavers.  But in terms of John Cook's