Day 139 - 21 Jun 95 - Page 29

     
     1   Q.   Chicken McNuggetts?
     2        A.  You got it.  It is an awfully important product for our
     3        organisation.
     4
     5   Q.   Nothing to do with your department, was it?
     6        A.  Excuse me?
     7
     8   Q.   Nothing to do with your department?
     9        A.  It has to do with my department when there is a
    10        secondary boycott that needs to be stopped.
    11
    12   Q.   So, when you have to advise people on how to stop a
    13        secondary boycott, you spend 80 per cent of the whole year
    14        doing so?
    15        A.  If it is as important an issue that goes to the
    16        wholesomeness of our food and is related to an union and a
    17        secondary boycott situation, absolutely.
    18
    19   Q.   I move on from that to the McDonald's management --
    20        violations of child labour laws in McDonald's stores
         in ---
    22        A.   Philadelphia?
    23
    24   Q.   Thank you.  I am trying to find it in your statement.
    25        These violations were revealed by a state inspection; is
    26        that how it came out?
    27        A.  Yes.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Was it the city authorities that did it?
    30        A.  It would be the local authorities, my Lord.
    31
    32   MR. MORRIS:  You said that he needed help to understand how the
    33        system should work again -- I understood that is what you
    34        said -- presumably, what some of the laws were, or what
    35        some of the requirements were?
    36        A.  He asked us for help to sharpen up his practices and
    37        what needed to be done.
    38
    39   Q.   Was he violating the law knowingly?
    40        A.  No, sir, he was not.
    41
    42   Q.   He did not know?
    43        A.  That is correct.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  What I understand is -- did you pronounce it
    46        Mr. McCale -- he had these dozen stores for which he had
    47        overall responsibility and which he ran overall, but
    48        individually they would be run by employees?
    49        A.  A store manager.
    50 
    51   Q.   A store manager, employed by him or his company? 
    52        A.  That is correct, my Lord; and he would oversee what 
    53        they do.
    54
    55   Q.   But if there was any question of enforcement procedures --
    56        that is, "Something has gone wrong, put it right", or
    57        whatever -- from the local authority, it would be him or
    58        his company, if he had a company which was a legal
    59        personality, who would be the subject matter of the
    60        procedures?