Day 131 - 06 Jun 95 - Page 62
1 A. I am sorry, I do not have the reference, if you can
2 give me the reference?
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4 Q. It is pink XIII, tab 55.
5 A. Yes.
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7 Q. It is bundle number, at the bottom, 852 -- page 51 of the
8 actual report.
9 A. This is a report of the HSE's?
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Yes. That is the one you are being asked to
12 take home this evening. It is not as bad as it looks,
13 because the print only covers about half a page.
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15 MR. MORRIS: In terms of performance, can you just explain what
16 performance standards are as they would relate to this
17 investigation?
18 A. Performance standards, as I understand it, for
19 McDonald's is where they have a set procedure to deal with
20 a particular task, and both are judged against the
21 performance standards. So they are making the point here
22 that there are a number of activities which have not got a
23 set procedure, presumably. It does not mean to say they
24 were not working properly, but it does mean to say there
25 was not a written procedure to put them in.
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27 Q. If a company was taking something seriously, they would be
28 expected to set a performance standard for ---
29 A. Not necessarily so.
30
31 Q. -- improvement?
32 A. They are using performance standards as a comment and
33 as a standard, because that is a McDonald's term. The rest
34 of the industry does not use performance standards, as a
35 thing -- we might talk about safe systems of work, or
36 whatever.
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38 Q. So what would be the equivalent, then, in the rest of
39 industry?
40 A. Standards of performance, SOPs, something along those
41 lines, safe systems of work, or whatever.
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43 Q. So, on page 852, they are concerned about performance
44 standards being inadequate or not existing, or expressed as
45 such?
46 A. On a very few activities, yes.
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48 Q. Applied to the use of potentially dangerous equipment?
49 A. Yes.
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51 Q. Or to pressure jet cleaners and large compaction equipment;
52 safety during deliveries?
53 A. Yes.
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55 Q. Preventing burns in the kitchen?
56 A. Yes.
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58 Q. Safe working in cold stores?
59 A. Yes.
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