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     1        statistical basis.
     2
     3   Q.   They might be temporary jobs, in that case?
     4        A.  There are temporary jobs, certainly; and sometimes you
     5        work twilight shifts and all sorts of things in
     6        manufacturing.  I am not quite sure of the statistical
     7        basis of the HSE figures.  I am quoting their figure that
     8        they publish nationally.
     9
    10   Q.   But the bulk of food manufacturing factory work is going to
    11        be a standard 40 hour week, something like that?
    12        A.  I would have thought so, yes.
    13
    14   Q.   Whereas the bulk of McDonald's, as we have heard,
    15        80 per cent of their staff are part-time, something around
    16        20 hours a week?
    17        A.  I think the figure was 80 per cent work less than
    18        39 hours a week.  Now, many factories do, too.  I am not
    19        sure of the breakdown of the two, to be perfectly honest.
    20
    21   Q.   As far as I understand from evidence that has been given in
    22        this court, it is something like an average of 20 hours a
    23        week for 80 per cent of McDonald's staff.  That can be
    24        checked.
    25        A.  I will take your word for it.
    26
    27   Q.   So, in order to weigh your figure of 12 per 1,000 at
    28        McDonald's with the 31 per 1,000 at the food manufacturing,
    29        we would have to double the 12 per 1,000 if that is based
    30        upon people working half the number of hours?
    31        A.  Yes.  If we accept that McDonald's report 85 to 90
    32        per cent of their reportable accidents, we will also have
    33        to multiply the figure for the food industry by three,
    34        because there is supposed to be an under-reporting by a
    35        factor of one in three in industry generally.  So if we are
    36        going like-for-like, we have to do it like that, and it
    37        becomes something 24 to 90, rather than 12 to 31.
    38
    39   Q.   We can go on to that then.  The McDonald's reporting
    40        rate -----
    41
    42   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Sorry -- rather than 12 to 31, you mean?
    43        A.  Yes.  If we compare -----
    44
    45   Q.   Yes.  I understand what you mean.  One can do the precise
    46        arithmetic.
    47        A.  Absolutely, yes.  It is that sort of scale.
    48
    49   MR. MORRIS:  The catering sector, as a whole, you said you have
    50        had discussions about this, about reporting to local 
    51        authorities, and whatever? 
    52        A.  Yes. 
    53
    54   Q.   But the catering sector as a whole has very specific
    55        accidents associated with it; kitchen work has very
    56        specific accidents associated with it; yes?
    57        A.  The bulk of accidents would fall within three or four
    58        categories, certainly; but, obviously, like any workplace,
    59        you can get a whole spread of accidents.
    60

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