Day 131 - 06 Jun 95 - Page 46

     
     1        them straight, so that you know where you are.
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     3   MR. MORRIS:  These 31 per 1,000 rate for food manufacturing, do
     4        you know what the rate for catering industry -- these are
     5        reported accidents, are they?
     6        A.  Yes.  These are reportable accidents which have
     7        actually been reported to the Health and Safety Executive.
     8
     9   Q.   What are the categories which they use?  They have the food
    10        manufacturing category.  We do not have the document in
    11        front of us, but what are the other categories relevant to
    12        McDonald's?
    13        A.  They are industry groupings.  The Health and Safety
    14        Executive work on what they call national industry
    15        groupings and develop centres to look at it.  So that you
    16        have the food manufacturing industry; off the top of my
    17        head, you have coal mining, you have metal working, and so
    18        on and so forth.
    19
    20   Q.   Are there any other categories that might relate to
         McDonald's?
    22        A.  No.
    23
    24   Q.   So food -----
    25        A.  The nearest one would be food manufacturing.
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  So there is not a catering industry?
    28        A.  Well, catering industries -- the reportable accidents
    29        in the catering industry are reported to local authorities,
    30        my Lord.  Now, although local authorities do a statistical
    31        return to the Health and Safety Executive, I am not aware
    32        of them putting that in the same sort of format that says:
    33        "This is the total for the catering industry".
    34
    35        There is a great deal of concern about under-reporting in
    36        the industry, as has already been stated.  I have actually
    37        talked to one of the senior inspectors from the Health and
    38        Safety Executive about it comparatively recently.  I am not
    39        aware of comprehensive figures.
    40
    MR. MORRIS:  So it is your understanding that in the hotel and
    42        catering sector, the general level of under-reporting would
    43        be something like one for every six?
    44        A.  That has been stated, yes.
    45
    46   Q.   That is your opinion, that it seems a reasonable -----
    47        A.  I am going on other people's work, but that was stated
    48        from the Health and Safety Executive and has been stated
    49        nationally by the Institution of Environmental Health.
    50 
    51   Q.   The food manufacturing statistics of 31 per 1,000, are we 
    52        talking about generally factory work? 
    53        A.  Yes.  The bulk of people would be in factory work.
    54        There may be associated place like warehouses, and so on,
    55        but the bulk would be in factory work.
    56
    57   Q.   So we would be talking about full-time jobs in general?
    58        A.  Well, there is a lot of part-time people in the
    59        industry as well, because food manufacturing does tend to
    60        be seasonal in some aspects.  I am not sure of the