Day 131 - 06 Jun 95 - Page 24
1 draws the sting of any attack the Defendants may in due
2 course choose to make along the lines: "Oh, well, it might
3 have been OK back in the 1980s, but look, you have become a
4 monstrously inefficient or exploitative organisation since
5 then."
6
7 My Lord, it is not of great weight, I readily confess. But
8 there is one question I would like to ask.
9
10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I did not mean to interrupt Mr. Purslow's
11 evidence, but it may have some general significance. What
12 I had thought the possible (and I am not drawing any
13 conclusion on it now) significance of developments since
14 is, at least in so far as you may argue they are part of a
15 continuing -- they might be indicative of McDonald's (you
16 would say good) attitude. So, without indicating a view on
17 that, I can see the possible relevance of that.
18
19 I thought there might also be some relevance to the remedy,
20 or one of them, which is sought in this case, in that if
21 I thought that the leaflet or any parts of it were
22 defamatory, it might be relevant to see not only what the
23 position was in 1989 or 1990, but what it is today. But
24 that is a complete irrelevance?
25
26 MR. RAMPTON: It is not, my Lord. It is somewhat of a refined
27 concept, because what it might lead to is this: your
28 Lordship might find that something which is in the leaflet
29 might -- and I hesitate to go any further down the road
30 than that -- might conceivably find that some part of the
31 leaflet was true of McDonald's in, let us say, 1989, but
32 was no longer so. The consequence would be that the
33 Defendants would be confined upon a granting of an
34 injunction to an allegation about what had been the state
35 of affairs in 1980 or 1990, but would not be permitted to
36 say that it was still true.
37
38 My Lord, from the view -- I make no secret of this view --
39 that I presently take of the evidence so far, that is not
40 going to be a matter which has any great importance at the
41 end of the case.
42
43 MR. MORRIS: I do not necessarily agree with any of that.
44
45 MR. JUSTICE BELL: You are not being asked to agree. You asked
46 for an explanation of what, if anything, its relevance is.
47 That is the way it is put.
48
49 MR. MORRIS: Can I just say that the actual specific point
50 I raised was about documents which have been created since
51 the trial started. That is the point I was making.
52
53 MR. JUSTICE BELL: I do not think there is any technical
54 significance in that. You may, I do not know, produce an
55 argument that this, that or the other -- I am not just
56 thinking of the employment context, but in some other
57 context, as has now been done -- because the situation was
58 unsatisfactory and the issues in this trial have made
59 McDonald's act, by the same token as you have argued that
60 people who can pay for improvements have an effect.