Day 123 - 09 May 95 - Page 19
1 really to one full column, half in the first and half in
2 the second. Then, having read that carefully, if you would
3 like to start reading at the beginning and then complete
4 that at the midday adjournment.
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6 (Short Adjournment).
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8 MR. MORRIS: To be honest I am not going to ask anything about
9 that section.
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11 MR. JUSTICE BELL: No, well you did ask quite a bit. You are
12 probably aware from the things I have said that I read
13 through the transcript of Mr. Beavers. I do not think you
14 were being fair to yourself when on Friday you said you had
15 not really asked much in cross-examination; you covered
16 quite a lot of ground in fact.
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18 MR. MORRIS: I was quite surprised when I read it last night;
19 I had forgotten how much we had covered. I was going to
20 ask a question about that particular section on employment
21 of black people and women, but I am not going to now.
22 I want to see if there is anything else on that. (To the
23 witness): The conditions in the United States and the UK
24 -- to save time -- are they, as far as you know, roughly
25 similar; similar kind of employment practices and policies
26 exist in the UK as in the US?
27 A. I do not know if I am informed enough to answer that
28 specifically. I think when Mr. Stein gives testimony he
29 might be able to comment a little more specifically on the
30 practices and policies here in the UK. I am familiar with
31 the United States obviously, but I am not as conversant on
32 the situation here in the UK. I would suppose they are
33 similar.
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35 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Are you aware, does any significant
36 difference come to mind that you do know of?
37 A. None that jumps out.
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39 Q. One way in which it seems to me the United States and the
40 United Kingdom are different is that all but about 14 per
41 cent of McDonald's restaurants in the States are run by
42 franchisees, if I understood your evidence last time?
43 A. That is correct.
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45 Q. About 14 per cent are run by McDonald's Corporation ---
46 A. That is correct.
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48 Q. -- as their own stores, whereas it seems to me that in the
49 United Kingdom the proportions are pretty well the reverse
50 of that?
51 A. That is right. I believe it is -----
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53 Q. So when it comes to employment -----
54 A. We employ, well there is a greater percentage of
55 restaurants here in the UK that are company-operated.
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57 MR. MORRIS: But in terms of the basic practices, which you said
58 are similar, would that apply really the world over? There
59 is a certain basic -----
60 A. Our basic operating and business philosophies would be
