Day 123 - 09 May 95 - Page 12


     
     1        text of the fact sheet (the main points at issue in this
     2        case) the main drift of the opinions in this leaflet do
     3        have a current of opinion raising those issues in America,
     4        rightly or wrongly?  Would that be fair to say?
     5        A.  I would say a minor current of opinion.  Generally, the
     6        preponderance of opinion relative to McDonald's is quite
     7        favourable and, with all due respect, I realise a lot of
     8        testimony has been already been given to support
     9        McDonald's, McDonald's position, but I just felt compelled
    10        to say that, you know, all of this is rubbish really.
    11
    12   Q.   There has also been a lot of testimony criticising
    13        McDonald's in this case.  Have you been following the case
    14        at all?
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I really do wonder where we are going, you
    17        know.  At the end of the day, it depends on what I make of
    18        it, does it not?
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  Yes -----
    21
    22   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  If I think you have substantially justified
    23        what is in the leaflet, I may reach the conclusion, in fact
    24        I assume it will follow, that McDonald's were unjustified
    25        in bringing this action.  If I think a large part of it is
    26        unjustified, I may understand why they brought the action.
    27        It all comes down to what I make of it at the end of the
    28        day, does it not?
    29
    30   MR. MORRIS:  So the criticisms in the London Greenpeace fact
    31        sheet, whether people believe them or not or whether it is
    32        right or wrong, they are in the public domain in America
    33        and McDonald's response with its views; is that fair to
    34        say?
    35        A.  We respond whenever we can to criticisms that are
    36        raised or when allegations are made against our Company or
    37        or brand.
    38
    39   Q.   But what I am saying is the criticisms in this fact sheet
    40        are in the public domain in America to some extent?
    41        A.  To some extent.
    42
    43   Q.   Has anybody in McDonald's Corporation sued anybody in
    44        America for expressing any of the criticisms that are
    45        relevant in this case?
    46        A.  I cannot say that I have any personal knowledge of
    47        that.  I am sure that has probably been the case.  We have
    48        a good number of franchisees, well over a 1,000 franchisees
    49        in America, and from time to time certain criticisms,
    50        unfair or false criticisms, might have been levelled 
    51        against us, and they took what they considered to be 
    52        appropriate action. 
    53
    54   Q.   But do you know of a single case where McDonald's, or their
    55        franchisees, or any section of McDonald's, have sued
    56        anybody in the United States for any of the criticims that
    57        have been made in this case?  Do you know of any single
    58        case?
    59        A.  I cannot put my finger on any particular case.  I could
    60        only say, in general, that we will pursue very vigorously

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