Day 123 - 09 May 95 - Page 07


     
     1        has been used in America?  I am not saying you agree with
     2        it, obviously.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why not just ask what it means because I have
     5        not heard of it myself.  So, I would like you to explain it
     6        to me.  You may get someone to say in due course from the
     7        witness box -- it may even be you -- what it means in the
     8        UK.  (To the witness):  What does it mean in the States?
     9        A.  "McJobs" in the States basically refers to the
    10        employment of people at McDonald's restaurants.  We have
    11        close to 10,000 restaurants in the United States.  We
    12        employ an awful lot of people, and so it is not unusual for
    13        someone to characterise a job at McDonald's as "McJob" or
    14        being a part of the McDonald's family, McFamily.
    15
    16   Q.   Does it have any -----
    17        A.  It does not have a negative connotation, to my
    18        knowledge.
    19
    20   MR. MORRIS:  But it also is used, is it not, to describe a
    21        certain type of job that other people may be employing
    22        people?  We can get some press cuttings out, but it is used
    23        to describe a type of job, is it not -- not just McDonald's
    24        employees?
    25        A.  I do not think that is a fair characterisation.  No,
    26        I would not say that.  That is not a term that you could
    27        use across our industry; I would not say that would be the
    28        case.
    29
    30   Q.   But you have been criticised in America for paying low
    31        wages from time to time.  I am not saying you agree, I am
    32        just trying to establish you have had criticism about low
    33        wages and employees being bossed around and things like
    34        that, have you not?
    35        A.  From time to time we have received criticism from
    36        people that were not knowledgeable about work at
    37        McDonald's, and we over time have attempted to address
    38        concerns or criticism that have been levelled at
    39        McDonald's.  I think the record will clearly show that
    40        McDonald's provides a great deal of opportunity for anyone
    41        starting out, you know, as a crew person.
    42
    43   Q.   Maybe to shorten this line of questioning, is there
    44        anything in the London Greenpeace fact sheet, the subject
    45        of this action, which you can put your finger on?  You can
    46        have a copy -----
    47        A.  My Lord, can I have a copy?
    48
    49   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.  Ask the question first of all though.
    50 
    51   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  You know the contents of the fact sheet, yes? 
    52        A.  I have reviewed it.  I have not looked at it ----- 
    53
    54   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will let you have an opportunity to look
    55        again in a moment, but let us have the question.
    56
    57   MR. MORRIS:  Is there anything in the fact sheet which has not
    58        been said beforehand?  I know that you do not agree with
    59        the fact sheet.  Do not worry about that.
    60

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