Day 122 - 05 May 95 - Page 19

     
     1   MR. RAMPTON:  I will leave it, my Lord.
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     3   MS. STEEL:  The phrase "tampered with" is vastly different to
     4        "carry out repairs on", or -----
     5        A.  I disagree entirely.  It means you do not touch them.
     6
     7   Q.   Why does it not say "electrical installations and equipment
     8        must not be touched"?
     9        A.  I was not the author of this report, I have no idea.
    10        But that is what it says: "It must not be tampered with"
    11        and I interpret that as meaning it must not be touched.
    12
    13   Q.   "Tampered with" implies interference or poking around, or
    14        something like that?
    15        A.  That is right.
    16
    17   Q.   Which is very different?
    18        A.  That is what you do when you change a plug, you tamper
    19        with..
    20
    Q.   No, it is very different from changing a plug?
    22        A.  That is interpretation.
    23
    24   Q.   Did not you think it was important to have, in a company
    25        document to crew members, something that was not widely
    26        open to being vastly differently interpreted?
    27        A.  In my opinion that sentence deals with it adequately.
    28
    29   Q.   In the longer statement that you made you said: "It is
    30        correct that managers are trained as part of their
    31        management training to control controllable expenses.  For
    32        example, labour, the maintenance and repair of building and
    33        equipment, promotions, food and paper costs etc."  So as
    34        well controlling labour, the management are expected to
    35        control promotions, yes?
    36        A.  I said that yesterday.
    37
    38   Q.   In order to cut costs, the company tries to limit the
    39        number of people who can progress to a higher grade?
    40        A.  No.
    41
    42   Q.   That contradicts the answer you gave previously, does it
    43        not?
    44        A.  No.
    45
    46   Q.   No?  Can you explain the difference?
    47
    48   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I do not think it does necessarily at all.
    49        You are being more specific about steps which are taken to
    50        cut costs; one can think of any number of ways.  I think 
    51        Mr. Nicholson might have drawn the inference, but you put 
    52        him right if he is wrong, that you were intimating it does 
    53        so unfairly, that people who ought to progress by virtue of
    54        their work performance are held back in order to save
    55        money.
    56
    57   MS. STEEL:   Mr. Nicholson, can you explain the difference
    58        between the two?
    59
    60   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  He does not have to because I can see one