Day 120 - 03 May 95 - Page 22

     
     1        you:  Liverpool were playing away, they won and the noise
     2        in that town that night was absolutely deafening.
     3
     4   Q.   Liverpool were playing at home?
     5        A.  Away, yes, because it was in a big match because the
     6        train station was right next door to my hotel.
     7
     8   Q.   If they were playing Tottenham, I might know the dates!
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Do not pursue it too far.  I would be very
    11        surprised if Liverpool did not play away on every Grand
    12        National day because otherwise they are wasting a large
    13        part of their own crowd.
    14        A.  Yes, I would have thought so.
    15
    16   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It will not cut it down much.
    17
    18   MR. MORRIS:  They used to win quite a lot around those times.
    19
    20   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  They would much rather play at home on
         non-Grand National days.  What are you going on to next? Is
    22        there anything more to ask about Liverpool?
    23
    24   MR. MORRIS:  I do not believe so.  No.  Might that be a good
    25        time to have our break?
    26
    27   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Yes.
    28
    29                            (Short adjournment)
    30
    31   MR. MORRIS:  You said that the issue of unions may have come up
    32        in other local areas or in stores but you would not know
    33        about it?
    34        A.  No.
    35
    36   Q.   So, around this time it may have been, for all you know,
    37        quite a widespread concern?
    38        A.  I would find that hard to believe.  I would have
    39        thought I would have got to know about it if it had been a
    40        widespread concern -- I did not.
    41
    42   MS. STEEL:  In actual fact, you said the reason you went to
    43        Liverpool was because you took the telephone call?
    44        A.  Yes, I was -- I spoke to the store Manager who asked me
    45        to come up.
    46
    47   Q.   You said that Carmel and Joanna would probably have gone if
    48        they had taken the call, that is, Carmel Flatley and Joanna
    49        Blackett?
    50        A.  I think I meant that in relation to any of the 
    51        incidents. 
    52 
    53   Q.   Yes?
    54        A.  Yes.
    55
    56   Q.   So, for all you know, they may have gone to other such
    57        meetings where they took the phone calls?
    58        A.  No, I think I would have known if Joanna or Carmel had
    59        attended.
    60