Day 120 - 03 May 95 - Page 18


     
     1        Saturday was because it was Grand National day and the
     2        centre of Liverpool is deserted.  So, it would be a very,
     3        very quiet Saturday afternoon.
     4
     5   Q.   So it was in work-time?
     6        A.  Yes.  I think, if I remember rightly, it was at
     7        3 o'clock.
     8
     9   Q.   Right.  So these were not people that were scheduled that
    10        day?
    11        A.  Oh, yes.  There would be some.  They would reduce the
    12        people on the floor to a minimum, so that as many people
    13        could attend the crew meeting as possible.  That is normal
    14        procedure.
    15
    16   Q.   So crew meetings are held in work-time, are they?
    17        A.  Yes.
    18
    19   Q.   Peter Richards who was the Regional Manager -- does that
    20        cover the whole of the North West region?
    21        A.  Yes, insofar as it extended at that time.
    22
    23   Q.   The store Manager was present?
    24        A.  Yes.
    25
    26   Q.   The Supervisor?
    27        A.  I am sure -- yes, the Supervisor was certainly there.
    28
    29   Q.   And yourself?
    30        A.  And myself.
    31
    32   Q.   Anybody else from the Company?
    33        A.  You mean senior personnel, I take it?
    34
    35   Q.   Yes.
    36        A.  No.
    37
    38   Q.   Had you been to that store before?
    39        A.  No.
    40
    41   Q.   So was there a long discussion about the trades union
    42        issue?
    43        A.  No.
    44
    45   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Why do you not -- I mean, there may be a
    46        limit as to how much you want to ask -- try to get moving
    47        by asking if the discussion at the meeting about trades
    48        unions was in any respect different to the ones at Hackney
    49        or East Ham?
    50 
    51   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.  Were there any differences or was it roughly 
    52        the same? 
    53        A.  No, roughly the same.  I did not participate on this
    54        occasion.  The store Manager ---
    55
    56   Q.   But you were there in the room?
    57        A.  -- yes, they asked me to be there in case crew wanted a
    58        Head Office input.  The store Manager dealt with the
    59        subject -----
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