Day 119 - 02 May 95 - Page 21


     
     1        not the whole rap session.  That was cut and cut and cut,
     2        I suspect.
     3
     4   Q.   So typically ---
     5        A.  I do not think there was any continuity there at all.
     6
     7   Q.   -- if somebody holding a rap session did not follow up the
     8        crew members comments and ask for more details, would that
     9        be something that concerned you?
    10        A.  No, no, not at all.  The rule of a rap session, a
    11        guiding -- there is nothing written in concrete -- is that
    12        the Supervisor taking the rap session should interfere as
    13        little as possible.  His questions should only be to deal
    14        with things which were not clear.  In other words, he is
    15        asking for a further explanation.  But, generally speaking,
    16        all he does is invite their comment and write that down.
    17        He does not come up with answers.  That is not his role.
    18
    19   Q.   But he does not ask for more detail?
    20        A.  He may ask for more detail.  If he feels he has not got
    21        the point or they have not put the point over, he may ask
    22        for more detail, but that is the only condition in which he
    23        will interfere with the rap session.  The rap session is an
    24        opportunity for the crew people to put across their
    25        opinions on various aspects of running the restaurant.
    26
    27   MR. MORRIS:  The training that we saw at the Hamburger
    28        University about strokes to motivate staff, would that
    29        relate also to -- during rap sessions you say that the
    30        person doing the rap session is just asking the staff to
    31        speak out.  Whatever?
    32        A.  Yes, he introduces the subject.
    33
    34   Q.   But does he also interact with the staff and make comments?
    35        A.  No, he should not.
    36
    37   Q.   So where does the training from the Hamburger University
    38        get put into place in terms of the emotional strokes which
    39        the managers are trained about?
    40        A.  I am not going to be able to answer that question for a
    41        very simple reason; I personally have only attended one
    42        course at Hamburger University.  That was the basic
    43        Operations course.  That is the first time.  I obviously
    44        saw it the last time I saw this film, but I have forgotten
    45        it completely.  I have never heard of that stroke thing
    46        before.  It is quite new to me.  I do not know what it is
    47        about, so that question should be directed to someone else;
    48        I do not know anything about this stroke thing.
    49
    50   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, I do not think the Defendants need worry 
    51        about it.  Arguably, they could have put it to 
    52        Mr. Atherton, they did not, but one of the people that we 
    53        will call, if Anne Tobin is going to be a witness, is Bill
    54        Tindale who is the chap on the film.
    55
    56   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  Right.
    57
    58   MR. MORRIS:  Can we safely assume that that session at Hamburger
    59        University is an authentic representation?
    60        A.  Oh, I would have thought so.  It certainly was

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