Day 115 - 06 Apr 95 - Page 14


     
     1        why the use of straw houses is less intensive than the use
     2        of insulated arcs?
     3        A.  Well, the whole system that I saw -----
     4
     5   Q.   I am sorry, I know what you say about the system.  I want
     6        to know how the form of accommodation that bears upon the
     7        question of intenseness or intensity, or whatever the word
     8        might be, intenseness?
     9        A.  I think that particular aspect is part of a bigger
    10        function of intensification.  I was only saying that, as
    11        far as I am concerned, the, what shall I say, gentler
    12        conditions that apply in the straw bale system are, to my
    13        mind, less stressful than the sort of things that you have
    14        in arcs, but I will agree with you that the arcs are better
    15        than a totally inside system.
    16
    17   Q.   How do you measure, you personally, from your own
    18        experience, the level of stress imposed on a sow in an
    19        insulated arc as opposed to a sow in a straw house?
    20        A.  That is a matter that one can only put in terms of
    21        animal behaviour, in terms of experience of observing
    22        animals.  Of course, if you have the means (and it has been
    23        done on some occasions) you can measure what are called
    24        stresser hormones or biochemical variables that will give
    25        you some idea of stress.
    26
    27        Now, scientists base those reactions entirely on what we,
    28        as human beings, manifest so you may say, well, that is
    29        anthropomorphisation, but we do use those generally as
    30        scientists and we can judge from the activity of the pigs
    31        the sort of activities that they manifest and also their
    32        reaction to human beings.
    33
    34   Q.   Describe the difference in the activities as between a sow
    35        who lives in a field that has for a shelter a straw house
    36        and a sow who lives in the same or similar field but has
    37        for a shelter an insulated arc with whatever else goes with
    38        that.  What are the significant symptomatic differences in
    39        behaviour which lead you to propose that the one suffers
    40        significantly less stress than the other?
    41        A.  If I could compare two systems that I have seen, I have
    42        not actually seen Mr. Bowes, so let us say, but I have seen
    43        something similar.  A particular item that I noticed was
    44        that the sows in the Soil Association system were very good
    45        at housekeeping.  They turfed the piglets out and did a bit
    46        housekeeping, sort of Monday morning housekeeping.
    47
    48        They were very assiduous in this.  They were very
    49        friendly.  There were not many of these straw houses in the
    50        area.  They had a good area nearby to dig and so on. 
    51 
    52        In the other system which has more intensive with more of 
    53        these arcs, I found that the conditions were not as good.
    54        There did not seem to be so much housekeeping, if I could
    55        use that phrase, by the sows.  They seemed to be more
    56        apprehensive of the approach of human beings.  They did not
    57        have such a good area nearby to exercise their rooting and
    58        wallowing habits.  So, I deduced from that example that the
    59        straw housing was generally better.
    60

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