Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 43


     
     1        using too much of the antibiotic, and that would take you
     2        back to the fact that, why did he have to use that much,
     3        because that would be an indication of bad husbandry.
     4
     5        It is a fact that if you have bad husbandry, it tends to
     6        affect the whole community because we are talking about
     7        zoonosis.
     8
     9   Q.   Is there any human health concerns over the use of
    10        tranquilizers in pig production?
    11        A.  I have seen the use of tranquilisers; there are two,
    12        one is called stresnil and the other one is called
    13        suicalm.  I have seen them being used when pigs are being
    14        moved, mixed in different groups to -----
    15
    16   Q.   Can we ask you, is this a human health concern or is this
    17        just a pig welfare concern?
    18        A.  Well, it is a concern because they are illicit usages.
    19        If the tranquillizer, residue of the tranquillizer, which
    20        might be applied very shortly before slaughter, if that got
    21        into food for human beings, that would be a risk, but that
    22        is not routinely checked for at the moment.
    23
    24   Q.   What is your opinion on the prevalence of use of
    25        tranquillizers?
    26        A.  It is very difficult for me to do more than guess.
    27        I would say that a few farms use it fairly frequently, some
    28        might use it occasionally if they have a particularly
    29        stroppy batch of pigs.
    30
    31   Q.   When a diseased pig or a number of diseased pigs are found
    32        in a herd of pigs where the animal might require injection
    33        of antibiotics, is the general response to treat just the
    34        individual pig or is it to treat the whole herd?
    35        A.  Well, if it is injection you obviously have to do it
    36        individually.  Much of the treatment is done by putting the
    37        antibiotic in the feed or in the drinking water.  Now, the
    38        disadvantage of putting it in the feed is that the animals
    39        that are actually ill may have gone off their appetite
    40        because they are feeling ill, so they will not eat very
    41        much feed and nor will they get very much of the agent;
    42        whereas, the others who are well will scoff up both the
    43        feed and the agent.
    44
    45        So, farmers would tend to overtreat so that they can get
    46        enough into the suffering pigs, of the inflicted pigs, and
    47        this is a matter of again good or bad management.  That is
    48        one of the reasons, I think, another one, apart from the
    49        non-observance of the withdrawal times, that contributes to
    50        the high MRLs -- excessive MRLs. 
    51 
    52   Q.   Do farmers consider sulphur drugs such as sulphadimidine to 
    53        be an antibiotic?
    54        A.  I found many farmers do not regard it as an
    55        antibiotic.  They will often tell you that they do not use
    56        antibiotics, but you find they do use sulphur drugs because
    57        they consider that it is a growth boosting product.  That
    58        is erroneous.
    59
    60        In the Swan Report which defined antibiotics, they are

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