Day 114 - 04 Apr 95 - Page 22


     
     1        in relation to animals going for slaughter."   It goes on.
     2
     3        But do you feel the situation for sick animals in transit
     4        and slaughterhouses has improved, got worse or has stayed
     5        the same since 1984?
     6        A.  The precautions have been tightened up as a result of
     7        this sort of pressure.
     8
     9   Q.   You said yesterday that the number of slaughterhouses, the
    10        distances are greater now than they used to be?
    11        A.  That has certainly increased the difficulties in coming
    12        to a decision.
    13
    14   Q.   On 192, the last in this series of questions:  "Where a
    15        casualty animal is to be transported to the slaughterhouse,
    16        it is essential that once there it is handled humanely and
    17        slaughtered with the minimum of delay.  We are not
    18        satisfied that this is always the situation.  In the course
    19        of our visits we have seen injured animals manhandled off
    20        transporters even though they were obviously suffering
    21        considerable pain and discomfort."  Have you seen that?
    22        A.  Yes, but I must say that again this has been adopted --
    23        this has been acted on because now vets, with the exception
    24        of a few derogations, vets should as a result of some of
    25        these complaints should examine the animals antemortem when
    26        they arrive at the slaughterhouse.
    27
    28        So, that implementation of a vet at the point of reception
    29        or, at least, the vet's supervision -- the law is a little
    30        bit vague, but there is much better chance now that an
    31        ailing and sick animal will be picked out.  There should be
    32        facilities at any slaughterhouse or at markets now for a
    33        pen for such animals where they can be, if necessary,
    34        killed instantly.
    35
    36   Q.   Has that provision of the vet's supervision for all animals
    37        arriving at the slaughterhouse something that has happened
    38        since 1990?
    39        A.  That has happened, according to EC regulations, since
    40        the late 1980s.
    41
    42   Q.   The last question is something I have not asked you at all,
    43        on Section 9 on pages 50 and 51: "Management, supervision
    44        and training".  Just cast your eye over that whole section
    45        to refresh your memory of it.  In paragraph 202, the last
    46        sentence:  "Very often, and in the current economic climate
    47        perhaps understandably, too much consideration is being
    48        given to throughput levels with disregard for the welfare
    49        of the animal."   What is your view on the throughput
    50        levels affecting the welfare of the animal? 
    51        A.  Generally, experiments have been done convinced me that 
    52        as you increase the throughput, the level of stress 
    53        increased, the noise and other aversive factors.
    54        Experiments have been done that I know of that indicate the
    55        level of stress hormones goes up more in big
    56        slaughterhouses with vast throughputs.
    57
    58        I think when you look at a section like this, I remember
    59        now, it is worthwhile comparing this with the Home Office
    60        Recommendations for laboratory staff dealing with such

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