Day 111 - 30 Mar 95 - Page 13

     
     1        original with you?
     2        A.  Yes, I have the original.
     3
     4   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  It is not 11, is it?
     5
     6   MR. MORRIS:  Is it the one-page document with a chart in the
     7        bottom left-hand side in German?  It is the last page of
     8        tab 17.
     9
    10   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  That is a long list, a whole page list.
    11
    12   MR. MORRIS:  Is it a German language?
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  No, it is not.  It is the one which Mr. North
    15        referred to which brought the pesticides matter out.
    16
    17   MR. MORRIS:  In Mrs. Brinley-Codd's bundle it was the last ----
    18
    19   MR. RAMPTON:  My Lord, have mine.  For all it is worth, half of
    20        it has been blanked out.
    21
    22   MR. MORRIS:  It is highlighted.
    23
    24   MR. RAMPTON:  It has been blanked out when it has been copied.
    25        We had better see the original.
    26
    27   MS. STEEL:  It was with the MAFF pamphlet, I think.
    28
    29   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am going to hand that back because I cannot
    30        read a thing on it because, as it has happened, no doubt
    31        totally unintentionally, when it has been photocopied the
    32        highlighting has completely obliterated what is underneath
    33        that.
    34
    35   THE WITNESS:  I have the original here.  It is highlighted green
    36        unfortunately.
    37
    38   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will not stop to have it copied now.  You
    39        ask Ms. Hovi what questions you actually want but at some
    40        stage I would like a copy I can actually read which you
         must then remind me to put at the back of tab 17.
    42
    43   MR. MORRIS:  Can I say that the actual copy that has been
    44        photocopied, it is only a couple of relevant words that
    45        have been blanked out.  Most of them are readable and it
    46        may be helpful if you did have a copy.
    47
    48        (To the witness) If we go to the chart, what is the
    49        relevant part of have chart that is concerned with
    50        pathogens in red meat or food-borne disease, food-borne 
    51        pathogenic organisms or whatever? 
    52        A.  Well, the pathogens in this list are the ones starting 
    53        with Bacillus cereus and ending with Penicillium between
    54        the first group basically.
    55
    56   Q.   The first part of chart?
    57        A.  Yes.  I would like to point out these are pathogenic
    58        organisms causing food poisoning; this does not include the
    59        pathogens that cause food-borne disease in humans.  That is
    60        why, for example, listeria and campylobacter are left out