Day 109 - 28 Mar 95 - Page 22


     
     1        the modern broiler is a defective animal, if you like.  Dr.
     2        Pattison used the word "designed" when he described the
     3        broiler, the today's chicken.  We, in our literature, have
     4        used the phrase "designed to suffer", and I am not
     5        suggesting that has been done very deliberately from a
     6        vindictive point of view, but I think it has been part of
     7        the process; they have resulted in a bird that suffers.
     8
     9   Q.   If you still have the -- I do not know whether this is
    10        necessary, but the relevant paragraph is paragraph 45 of
    11        the report on the Farm Animal Welfare Council Report?
    12        A.  Where is that?
    13
    14   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I will just make a note of that.
    15
    16   MS. STEEL:  Right.  It just says:  "The Council concludes that
    17        the current level of leg problems in broilers is
    18        unacceptable.  We recommend that steps should be taken to
    19        ensure that there is a significant reduction in the numbers
    20        and severity of leg problems.  It will be the
    21        responsibility of the industry to achieve this subjective,
    22        and the Council intends to look at this aspect of broiler
    23        production again in five years' time when significant
    24        improvements should be apparent.  If no reduction in leg
    25        problems is found, we may recommend the introduction of
    26        legislation to ensure the required improvements".
    27        A.  If I could just make this comment?
    28
    29   Q.   Yes.
    30
    31   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  I am sorry, you might be sitting around the
    32        fire having a chat.  Do keep your voices up.  What did you
    33        want to say, Mrs. Druce?
    34        A.  I wanted to comment that, according to Dr. Pattison's
    35        evidence, Sun Valley's partial solution to leg weakness was
    36        the routine, or is the routine administration of
    37        antibiotics in the first, I think the first week of their
    38        lives, the birds' lives.  I would say that was a very
    39        dangerous road to go along, because I am very aware from
    40        all the reading I have done that antibiotic resistance is
    41        emerging very, very much in many, many drugs, obviously
    42        partly through over-use in the human population but also
    43        very much because of over-use in animal husbandry, and
    44        I contend that -- well, it is obvious that historically the
    45        intensive farming systems that we see today have gone
    46        alongside the discovery of antibiotics, and without this,
    47        without that discovery they could not have taken off; there
    48        is no way that these massive numbers of birds, for
    49        instance, could be kept without frequent recourse to
    50        antibiotics.  This, to my mind, is completely immoral, 
    51        because it is not actually life saving in the sense that 
    52        when you give a child antibiotics because it might become 
    53        deaf, or whatever, this is a known system.  It is known
    54        that the system is unhealthy and the massive numbers --
    55        I mean, for instance, no farmer with 50 thousand birds is
    56        going to take a chance that respiratory infection is
    57        breaking out.  There is blanket use of antibiotics
    58        instantly, and this, I think, is not the solution.  Sun
    59        Valley's solution of giving antibiotics routinely is, to my
    60        mind, irresponsible.

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