Day 106 - 23 Mar 95 - Page 30
1 circumstances recombine. It is arguable that if you were
2 looking for organophospherous residues within the animal,
3 the last place you would look, and the least successful
4 place of looking, is renal fat. Ergo, there is no
5 evidence, quote, but a different interpretation of this
6 MAVIS report is that, possibly, there is no evidence
7 because they are not looking for it, at least not looking
8 for it successfully.
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10 MR. JUSTICE BELL: But what I understood you to do about 20
11 minutes ago was make a positive assertion ---
12 A. Indeed.
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14 Q. -- that measurable quantities had been found ---
15 A. That is the case.
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17 Q. -- in meat prepared for humans. So, when you are turning
18 your mind to what papers you need to support that, that is
19 what I want you to be looking at. It is a completely
20 different argument that because they have not been found
21 does not mean to say they are not there.
22 A. Quite.
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24 Q. What I am looking for is, or may well at the end of the
25 case be looking for, is the basis upon which you assert
26 that they have been found; do you understand?
27 A. Yes.
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29 Q. If there are any papers you know of which go further and
30 suggest that such antibiotic residues, growth promoting
31 hormone drug residues, and the point you are specifically
32 on at the moment, pesticide residues can damage the health
33 of people on a meat based diet, that also would be
34 important.
35 A. My Lord, you appreciate I ------
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37 Q. It is not just a question of the presence of the residues;
38 it is a question of whether such residues as have been
39 found, if any, can damage human health.
40 A. Please appreciate that I claim no expertise in terms of
41 hormonal -----
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43 Q. That may be. It may be, for all I know, your evidence your
44 evidence only relates to the first point, that residues
45 have been found and that you do not consider yourself
46 qualified to give evidence as to whether they can damage
47 human health. But, if you do purport to give evidence on
48 the second question, not just the existence of residues,
49 but the possibility of damage to human health, then I would
50 like you to help Mr. Morris and Ms. Steel by finding any
51 publication which you think supports it.
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53 MS. STEEL: On the second point, that was actually in the
54 statement in the first place about if they were found it
55 would be bad for human health.
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57 MR. JUSTICE BELL: Fair enough.
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59 MS. STEEL: Also, that is what Mr. Kenny said on day 100, page
60 54, line 17; pesticide residues would concern him because
