Day 106 - 23 Mar 95 - Page 28

     
     1   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  You see, it is not hypocrisy.  I appreciate
     2        you are representing yourselves, but if you say the other
     3        side are doing something which they should not do, then
     4        stand up and make the point at the time.  Although I will
     5        do my best to notice if something is done without adequate
     6        notice, I cannot be expected to cotton on to it all the
     7        time.
     8
     9        There have been many matters on both sides which have been
    10        raised without notice, but they might have been thought to
    11        be, I am not saying irrelevant, but of indirect rather than
    12        absolutely direct relevance.
    13
    14        This is, clearly, of the most direct, potential relevance
    15        to a statement which is prime facie defamatory in the
    16        leaflet.  So, it is important.  Anyway, you understand the
    17        basis upon which we are going on now?
    18
    19   MR. MORRIS:  Yes.
    20
    MR. JUSTICE BELL (To the witness):  When we break in 10 minutes
    22        or quarter of an hour's time, or overnight, it is not
    23        normal to be spoken to during your evidence, but Mr. Morris
    24        and Ms. Steel can speak to you, if they wish, with a view
    25        to finding out what papers you need to support your point
    26        of view, Mr. North, and arranging that we get copies of
    27        them, do you understand?
    28        A.  Yes.
    29
    30   Q.   They will not talk to you about other ramifications of your
    31        evidence, and you should not talk to them about other
    32        ramifications of your evidence, but you can certainly talk
    33        to them in order to get hold of the papers which you say
    34        support the view you have just expressed.  Then we will
    35        listen any cross-examination on that point which
    36        Mr. Rampton embarks upon, if he wishes, and I will consider
    37        the question of any evidence in rebuttal.
    38
    39   MR. MORRIS (To the witness):  So, Mr. North, what is the
    40        situation as regards the existence of pesticide residues in
         basically what we are concerned with is cattle, pigs, and
    42        chickens, or have you focused your attention on one
    43        particular ----
    44        A.  Tend to be cattle, yes.  Probably chickens is less of a
    45        problem, from my own knowledge of poultry husbandry.  The
    46        certainly topical use of pesticides is not common.  It is
    47        only really when you have a lice or a red mite problem that
    48        you tend to do anything.  Cattle particularly, as you may
    49        or may not know, are subject to compulsory warble fly
    50        treatment in designated areas which is direct application 
    51        of a fairly concentrated organophospherous pesticide. 
    52        Sheep are commonly ----- 
    53
    54   Q.   Let us not worry about sheep because we are not concerned
    55        about sheep.
    56
    57   MR. JUSTICE BELL:  We can leave sheep on one side.
    58        A.  In terms of three species we are dealing with, the high
    59        exposure group is cattle, where you have topical
    60        applications, as I said, from warble fly treatment to other